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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t Judge a Book By Its Cover &#8211; In Defense of &#8220;Marry Him: The Case for Settling for Mr. Good Enough&#8221; by Lori Gottlieb</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry John.  The population of the planet would not survive if everyone held out for their ideal.  Want to know why?  Because no man or woman could ever measure up to our perfect ideal.  Anyone who is upset about their wife&#039;s &quot;pencil&quot; legs even though she&#039;s a great person are very shallow.  The reason the divorce rte is 50% is because people don&#039;t take commitment seriously, and are looking for the other person to make them happy and fulfill their every fantasy.  And remember marriage takes two.  You may find someone to be ideal, but they may think you&#039;re a joke.  I hope you ditch this viewpoint before you pass up a lot of quality women who could make you happy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry John.  The population of the planet would not survive if everyone held out for their ideal.  Want to know why?  Because no man or woman could ever measure up to our perfect ideal.  Anyone who is upset about their wife&#8217;s &#8220;pencil&#8221; legs even though she&#8217;s a great person are very shallow.  The reason the divorce rte is 50% is because people don&#8217;t take commitment seriously, and are looking for the other person to make them happy and fulfill their every fantasy.  And remember marriage takes two.  You may find someone to be ideal, but they may think you&#8217;re a joke.  I hope you ditch this viewpoint before you pass up a lot of quality women who could make you happy. </p>
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		<title>By: John Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why should be surprised that so many people in this discussion believe love is something can be quantified.Perhaps &quot;love&quot; is the wrong word--
physical attraction is more specific.

There aren&#039;t any rules that one can set down about height, age differances, or any other such things. Given that in the U.S., 50% of couples who play by the acepted rules wind up in divorce court, it should seem clear that the safe, conservative path is an invitation to disater.

Let me say something about this &quot;settling business&quot;. It&#039;s a trap. Good enough cuts it if you&#039;re willing to open the pandora&#039;s box of quite likely living the marital equivalent of Thoreaus&#039; life of quiet desperation.

Current neurophysiology has established there is an unconscious and it can sabotage us in many insidious ways. If you&#039;re a woman who&#039;s romantic ideal was
a guy like Jack Bauer or Alan Shore and you settle for a self-effacing CPA, that ideal is not going to dissipate. If you&#039;re a guy who likes &quot;dancer&#039;s legs&quot;  on a woman and your wife has legs like pencils, what do you think is going to be going on in your head every time you see such a woman: she&#039;ll be compared unfavorably to your ideal.

Helen Keller said, &quot;Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.&quot; I cannot think of a single great thinker who suggested we should be satisfied with winning the silver medal--or the bronze unless it was St.Paul or Marcus Aurellius.   

The problem with most men and women when it comes to finding a partner is that they are choked by timidity. They would rather take the safe path then roll the dice and say, &quot;THIS is the kind of man or woman I want and I&#039;ll either find a way of making it happen or I&#039;ll go to my grave unmarried.&quot;

Until you can stake it all on a single roll of the dice, you don&#039;t know how liberating it can be. I have a &quot;romantic ideal&quot;. She is so far out of my class that I sometimes question my sanity but then again, genious always has a touch of madness in it.

The surprising thing is, that since I know exactly what I want, I have lost all fear about approaching, and talking to. women who I once thought were unapproachable. I know before I say a single word that they&#039;re not the one so what do I care if I&#039;m ignored, rebuffed, or mocked. They&#039;re not the one. I&#039;m just
approaching them for the same reason I&#039;d walk up to a Monet or Renoir at the Met museum: I get a bit  of a buzz contemplating beauty.

The other thing is I don&#039;t care if I get shot down 50 times or a 100. As a matter of fact someone--I think the CEO for IBM said--if you want to succedd more fail twice as much.&quot;  

People are soooooo afraid of the word &quot;no&quot; or being laughed at or put down. And why? We know our limitations or those things about us that we find unappealing. We should be shattered because they&#039;re suggesting what we think about ourselvesmay be true--that were not not attractive, buffed, or charismatic as we wished ourselves to be.  

&quot;Settle&quot; if you want but there&#039;s going to come a time--and it&#039;s going to be a bad day for you when you realize Mark Twain nailed it when he said: &quot;Twenty years from now you won&#039;t remember the chances you took; you&#039;ll remember all those opportunities you let pass you by.&quot;

Two last considerations: first. if you get proactive you&#039;re going to get shot down by as many &quot;5&#039;s&quot; as &quot;10&#039;s&quot; so you might as well crash and burn with the 10.  

And second, the 
e who makes your heart skip a beat may be a &quot;10&quot; in one way but I know one thing: everyone of us is a &quot;10&quot;in one way or another.  
 
Never think you are anyone&#039;s inferioror superior. The Hindi language has an expression: &quot;Neti, net1: &quot;Neither this or that&quot;. You&#039;re neither the superstar ytou might think you are or the biggest loser; the man or woman you&#039;re attracted to is neither attracted to you or unattracted to you.
A world of possibilities are opened when you you see the futility of putting people in boxes with labelson them.   












































 

























































































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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why should be surprised that so many people in this discussion believe love is something can be quantified.Perhaps &#8220;love&#8221; is the wrong word&#8211;<br />
physical attraction is more specific.</p>
<p>There aren&#8217;t any rules that one can set down about height, age differances, or any other such things. Given that in the U.S., 50% of couples who play by the acepted rules wind up in divorce court, it should seem clear that the safe, conservative path is an invitation to disater.</p>
<p>Let me say something about this &#8220;settling business&#8221;. It&#8217;s a trap. Good enough cuts it if you&#8217;re willing to open the pandora&#8217;s box of quite likely living the marital equivalent of Thoreaus&#8217; life of quiet desperation.</p>
<p>Current neurophysiology has established there is an unconscious and it can sabotage us in many insidious ways. If you&#8217;re a woman who&#8217;s romantic ideal was<br />
a guy like Jack Bauer or Alan Shore and you settle for a self-effacing CPA, that ideal is not going to dissipate. If you&#8217;re a guy who likes &#8220;dancer&#8217;s legs&#8221;  on a woman and your wife has legs like pencils, what do you think is going to be going on in your head every time you see such a woman: she&#8217;ll be compared unfavorably to your ideal.</p>
<p>Helen Keller said, &#8220;Life is either a daring adventure or nothing at all.&#8221; I cannot think of a single great thinker who suggested we should be satisfied with winning the silver medal&#8211;or the bronze unless it was St.Paul or Marcus Aurellius.   </p>
<p>The problem with most men and women when it comes to finding a partner is that they are choked by timidity. They would rather take the safe path then roll the dice and say, &#8220;THIS is the kind of man or woman I want and I&#8217;ll either find a way of making it happen or I&#8217;ll go to my grave unmarried.&#8221;</p>
<p>Until you can stake it all on a single roll of the dice, you don&#8217;t know how liberating it can be. I have a &#8220;romantic ideal&#8221;. She is so far out of my class that I sometimes question my sanity but then again, genious always has a touch of madness in it.</p>
<p>The surprising thing is, that since I know exactly what I want, I have lost all fear about approaching, and talking to. women who I once thought were unapproachable. I know before I say a single word that they&#8217;re not the one so what do I care if I&#8217;m ignored, rebuffed, or mocked. They&#8217;re not the one. I&#8217;m just<br />
approaching them for the same reason I&#8217;d walk up to a Monet or Renoir at the Met museum: I get a bit  of a buzz contemplating beauty.</p>
<p>The other thing is I don&#8217;t care if I get shot down 50 times or a 100. As a matter of fact someone&#8211;I think the CEO for IBM said&#8211;if you want to succedd more fail twice as much.&#8221;  </p>
<p>People are soooooo afraid of the word &#8220;no&#8221; or being laughed at or put down. And why? We know our limitations or those things about us that we find unappealing. We should be shattered because they&#8217;re suggesting what we think about ourselvesmay be true&#8211;that were not not attractive, buffed, or charismatic as we wished ourselves to be.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Settle&#8221; if you want but there&#8217;s going to come a time&#8211;and it&#8217;s going to be a bad day for you when you realize Mark Twain nailed it when he said: &#8220;Twenty years from now you won&#8217;t remember the chances you took; you&#8217;ll remember all those opportunities you let pass you by.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two last considerations: first. if you get proactive you&#8217;re going to get shot down by as many &#8220;5&#8242;s&#8221; as &#8220;10&#8242;s&#8221; so you might as well crash and burn with the 10.  </p>
<p>And second, the <br />
e who makes your heart skip a beat may be a &#8220;10&#8243; in one way but I know one thing: everyone of us is a &#8220;10&#8243;in one way or another.  </p>
<p>Never think you are anyone&#8217;s inferioror superior. The Hindi language has an expression: &#8220;Neti, net1: &#8220;Neither this or that&#8221;. You&#8217;re neither the superstar ytou might think you are or the biggest loser; the man or woman you&#8217;re attracted to is neither attracted to you or unattracted to you.<br />
A world of possibilities are opened when you you see the futility of putting people in boxes with labelson them.   </p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2011 07:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#146, do you really believe that?  I&#039;m also under 5&#039;6&quot; (5&#039;4&quot;) but have been rejected many times for being too short, like SS.  

I&#039;m not a size 0 anymore but am still a size 2.  I get dates but also get rejected by guys who find me too thin.  I was a size 0 (at my thinnest, 00) and less than 100 pounds until my late 20s.  Back then I got plenty of rejections by men who thought I looked way too frail. In retrospect that really was too scrawny!  I&#039;m still slim but look much better since losing that emaciated look.   

I now make good money, but that hasn&#039;t exactly sent a ton of fabulous men my way either!  

Seriously, what kind of men are you encountering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#146, do you really believe that?  I&#8217;m also under 5&#8217;6&#8243; (5&#8217;4&#8243;) but have been rejected many times for being too short, like SS.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a size 0 anymore but am still a size 2.  I get dates but also get rejected by guys who find me too thin.  I was a size 0 (at my thinnest, 00) and less than 100 pounds until my late 20s.  Back then I got plenty of rejections by men who thought I looked way too frail. In retrospect that really was too scrawny!  I&#8217;m still slim but look much better since losing that emaciated look.   </p>
<p>I now make good money, but that hasn&#8217;t exactly sent a ton of fabulous men my way either!  </p>
<p>Seriously, what kind of men are you encountering?</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 16:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am under 5&#039;6&quot;... been rejected many times for being too short.
 
Not a size zero, but I am about a four. Then again, I&#039;m 5&#039;3&quot;.
 
Making a crapload of money? ha ha ha ha ha... I was the one who married up!
 
 
I&#039;m really hoping #146 is just exaggerating! If not, well, um, what kind of company are you keeping?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am under 5&#8217;6&#8243;&#8230; been rejected many times for being too short.<br />
 <br />
Not a size zero, but I am about a four. Then again, I&#8217;m 5&#8217;3&#8243;.<br />
 <br />
Making a crapload of money? ha ha ha ha ha&#8230; I was the one who married up!<br />
 <br />
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I&#8217;m really hoping #146 is just exaggerating! If not, well, um, what kind of company are you keeping?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl R</title>
		<link>http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/dont-judge-a-book-by-its-cover-the-truth-about-%e2%80%9cmarry-him-the-case-for-settling-for-mr-good-enough-by-lori-gottlieb/comment-page-3/#comment-147655</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;FedUp said:&lt;/strong&gt; (#146)
&lt;em&gt;&quot;from my experience men dont want women unless they are a size zero, under 5’6″, and make a crap load of money.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m not an expert on women&#039;s sizes, but size zero &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; 5&#039;5&quot; ... isn&#039;t that kind of &lt;em&gt;scrawny&lt;/em&gt;?

I really don&#039;t &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; to be able to count my girlfriend&#039;s ribs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>FedUp said:</strong> (#146)<br />
<em>&#8220;from my experience men dont want women unless they are a size zero, under 5’6″, and make a crap load of money.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an expert on women&#8217;s sizes, but size zero <em>and</em> 5&#8217;5&#8243; &#8230; isn&#8217;t that kind of <em>scrawny</em>?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t <em>want</em> to be able to count my girlfriend&#8217;s ribs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 03:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FedUp #146

Really? Do you honestly believe that? I can&#039;t think of any of my happily married girlfriends who fit your description.</description>
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<p>Really? Do you honestly believe that? I can&#8217;t think of any of my happily married girlfriends who fit your description.</p>
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		<title>By: FedUp</title>
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		<dc:creator>FedUp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sorry, from my experience men dont want women unless they are a size zero, under 5&#039;6&quot;, and make a crap load of money. Otherwise youre for sex. plan and simple . :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sorry, from my experience men dont want women unless they are a size zero, under 5&#8217;6&#8243;, and make a crap load of money. Otherwise youre for sex. plan and simple . <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan - you are right on the money when it comes to this book and Gottlieb is, too, for writing it. I am a 27-year-old woman livingin Toronto and I have tons of girl friends who are beautiful aesthetically, well-educated with great careers and NO MAN in their lives because &quot;no one is good enough,&quot; &quot;there are no real men out there anymore,&quot; &quot;chivalry is dead,&quot; etc. etc. What do they all have in common?  Besides the fact that most of them are unhappy and want a relationship, they ALL blame men for their single status. The whole &quot;all the good ones are taken&quot; mantra. I am in a new relationship after dating for several months, but it wasn&#039;t very hard for me to find The One (again!) because I - YES - settled. And by settle I mean choose to be ina relationship with a great man who&#039;s a 10 in my eyes :)  I could have gone on dating forever but a real relationship has to be built over the course of a long while and dating just stops you from getting there; so find someone you like and stop dating and let the love grow. It can&#039;t grow overnight. And I am a big believer in &quot;like attracts like,&quot; if you think the good ones are all taken (and let&#039;s face it, the older we get, the good ones do get snatche dup - but first ask yourself if YOU, YOURSELF, are really a good woman, do you know how to be in a good relationship? are you materialistic? nurturing? or not...etc.) then you will attract bad apples through your own negativity. Stop putting the onus on men to shore up and start becoming a better person with a less-inflated ego. Something about big city-living breeds women who thin the world of themselves and then wonder why their single...uhhh, maybe it&#039;s because your personality sucks.  I mean, would you date someone who thinks no one is good enough for them? Geez. Okay that&#039;s my rant of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan &#8211; you are right on the money when it comes to this book and Gottlieb is, too, for writing it. I am a 27-year-old woman livingin Toronto and I have tons of girl friends who are beautiful aesthetically, well-educated with great careers and NO MAN in their lives because &#8220;no one is good enough,&#8221; &#8220;there are no real men out there anymore,&#8221; &#8220;chivalry is dead,&#8221; etc. etc. What do they all have in common?  Besides the fact that most of them are unhappy and want a relationship, they ALL blame men for their single status. The whole &#8220;all the good ones are taken&#8221; mantra. I am in a new relationship after dating for several months, but it wasn&#8217;t very hard for me to find The One (again!) because I &#8211; YES &#8211; settled. And by settle I mean choose to be ina relationship with a great man who&#8217;s a 10 in my eyes <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I could have gone on dating forever but a real relationship has to be built over the course of a long while and dating just stops you from getting there; so find someone you like and stop dating and let the love grow. It can&#8217;t grow overnight. And I am a big believer in &#8220;like attracts like,&#8221; if you think the good ones are all taken (and let&#8217;s face it, the older we get, the good ones do get snatche dup &#8211; but first ask yourself if YOU, YOURSELF, are really a good woman, do you know how to be in a good relationship? are you materialistic? nurturing? or not&#8230;etc.) then you will attract bad apples through your own negativity. Stop putting the onus on men to shore up and start becoming a better person with a less-inflated ego. Something about big city-living breeds women who thin the world of themselves and then wonder why their single&#8230;uhhh, maybe it&#8217;s because your personality sucks.  I mean, would you date someone who thinks no one is good enough for them? Geez. Okay that&#8217;s my rant of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Sayanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sayanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl- 

I think the phrasing might be the issue- we don&#039;t know. Does your girlfriend tell you that &#039;oh, my ex was way better looking than you?&quot; If so...man, you&#039;ve got a thick skin. 

My impression is that that&#039;s how Andy&#039;s girl is wording it. Could be wrong of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl- </p>
<p>I think the phrasing might be the issue- we don&#8217;t know. Does your girlfriend tell you that &#8216;oh, my ex was way better looking than you?&#8221; If so&#8230;man, you&#8217;ve got a thick skin. </p>
<p>My impression is that that&#8217;s how Andy&#8217;s girl is wording it. Could be wrong of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, (#139)
I agree with Cat (#141). I think you&#039;re being insecure about your relationship.

Her previous relationships broke up for a reason. Those other men had their own flaws and problems.

My current girlfriend has dated men who were taller, more muscular, smarter, funnier, wealthier, more successful, (and I would assume better endowed and better lovers). This doesn&#039;t bother me. I&#039;m not insecure about myself, and (most importantly) I&#039;m the one who is easiest to get along with.

I don&#039;t know how your girlfriend is phrasing her comments, but its possible that she&#039;s doing it because she&#039;s insecure as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, (#139)<br />
I agree with Cat (#141). I think you&#8217;re being insecure about your relationship.</p>
<p>Her previous relationships broke up for a reason. Those other men had their own flaws and problems.</p>
<p>My current girlfriend has dated men who were taller, more muscular, smarter, funnier, wealthier, more successful, (and I would assume better endowed and better lovers). This doesn&#8217;t bother me. I&#8217;m not insecure about myself, and (most importantly) I&#8217;m the one who is easiest to get along with.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how your girlfriend is phrasing her comments, but its possible that she&#8217;s doing it because she&#8217;s insecure as well.</p>
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