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		<title>By: NonExist</title>
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		<dc:creator>NonExist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was semi-unemployed (no steady but temp and pay by day jobs) I almost divorced my wife because I felt bad for not being able to provide for her like I did at first.  
And if I lost my job today(even if it was temporary) I would not even date.
I know a job does not define character but I would just feel embarrassed to approach anyone for dating purposes because I have no stable means.

Even if I gave her attention and affection and showed my interest why would she even be interested. Especially when it may be uncertain when I will get back on my feet.

I mean what am I going to do, clean her home, wash her car, empty her trash, and take care of her grounds in exchange for her paying for dates?

I know it sounds stupid but as open minded as I am that work ethic I was taught as a kid still is in effect.  I&#039;d just feel so worthless even if the job loss was not my fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was semi-unemployed (no steady but temp and pay by day jobs) I almost divorced my wife because I felt bad for not being able to provide for her like I did at first. <br />
And if I lost my job today(even if it was temporary) I would not even date.<br />
I know a job does not define character but I would just feel embarrassed to approach anyone for dating purposes because I have no stable means.</p>
<p>Even if I gave her attention and affection and showed my interest why would she even be interested. Especially when it may be uncertain when I will get back on my feet.</p>
<p>I mean what am I going to do, clean her home, wash her car, empty her trash, and take care of her grounds in exchange for her paying for dates?</p>
<p>I know it sounds stupid but as open minded as I am that work ethic I was taught as a kid still is in effect.  I&#8217;d just feel so worthless even if the job loss was not my fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Elise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it all depends on where the woman is in her life and what she is looking for in a man and the relationship.
For example, I am a woman with my own decent place in a very nice location.  I make a very decent living.  I am also open minded so I dated a man who was much younger with his own place, dated a man my age with his own place and dating a man my age with a roommate.  I am finding that somehow the men with their own places exuded a sort of maturity, independence, and self-reliance.
I think if women are actively seeking for a mate (not just by happenstance), they prefer a man who is already stable with a career and basically can afford his own place very comfortably especially if the woman is already at that stage herself.  I am sure for a certain number of men with roommates, they have wonderful qualities, and for me I am actually not opposed to dating them.  However, it has caused problems in my relationship where my partner feels insecure and less confident no matter how I try to compliment him due to our financial difference for which the roommate at a certain age can be a symptom.  
If the man makes a decent living (enough or the same as the woman) and chooses to have a roommate then we would have to ask why he wants a roommate if he can comfortably afford one.  Is it that bromance factor?  If that&#039;s okay for a woman, then that&#039;s great, although for me, I look for a partner without a sidekick.  I love adventure and love a lot of sports and want my partner to have the same interests and be that partner for me.
In all, the above life cases are stating that each situation is different and it really all depends on what the woman is looking for in her relationship and her mate and what stage she is in life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it all depends on where the woman is in her life and what she is looking for in a man and the relationship.<br />
For example, I am a woman with my own decent place in a very nice location.  I make a very decent living.  I am also open minded so I dated a man who was much younger with his own place, dated a man my age with his own place and dating a man my age with a roommate.  I am finding that somehow the men with their own places exuded a sort of maturity, independence, and self-reliance.<br />
I think if women are actively seeking for a mate (not just by happenstance), they prefer a man who is already stable with a career and basically can afford his own place very comfortably especially if the woman is already at that stage herself.  I am sure for a certain number of men with roommates, they have wonderful qualities, and for me I am actually not opposed to dating them.  However, it has caused problems in my relationship where my partner feels insecure and less confident no matter how I try to compliment him due to our financial difference for which the roommate at a certain age can be a symptom. <br />
If the man makes a decent living (enough or the same as the woman) and chooses to have a roommate then we would have to ask why he wants a roommate if he can comfortably afford one.  Is it that bromance factor?  If that&#8217;s okay for a woman, then that&#8217;s great, although for me, I look for a partner without a sidekick.  I love adventure and love a lot of sports and want my partner to have the same interests and be that partner for me.<br />
In all, the above life cases are stating that each situation is different and it really all depends on what the woman is looking for in her relationship and her mate and what stage she is in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2011 18:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of guys don&#039;t like dating women who are unemployed in my experience. I have problems finding work and have told guys I only temp and they disappear. Also most guys that I date normally expect the bill to be split and if they do happen to pay they talk about how generous they are. So from my experience a guy does not feel proud when he pays for a women.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of guys don&#8217;t like dating women who are unemployed in my experience. I have problems finding work and have told guys I only temp and they disappear. Also most guys that I date normally expect the bill to be split and if they do happen to pay they talk about how generous they are. So from my experience a guy does not feel proud when he pays for a women.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#53 Steph

Sounds like this was a good guy, trying to do the best  he could.  Interesting thing about men that you probably have already realized.  Their jobs/careers are often their  mission in life, their passion (not always, but usually).  Not to mention it indicates their ability to provide.  When this takes a hit, their masculinity takes a hit.  Obviously everyone is different and every situation is different, so I&#039;m sure it affects men in different ways and some are able to &#039;handle&#039; it better than others.

Although I&#039;m sure you were very disappointed and hurt, I think he did the mature/good character thing in letting you go (although a phone call would have been nice!).  You weren&#039;t giving him ANY pressure and was very understanding, but bottom line, a relationship does take focus and energy.  I&#039;m sure he wanted to do his best in that with you, and knew he couldn&#039;t with this career change to work out.

Finally, men generally can&#039;t multitask like women can, especially when it&#039;s big things like career.  They tend to have to devote their attention to one thing (and a big one at that, don&#039;t want to minimize it) before they feel like they have that handled and can relax a little to devote a part of their resources (time, attention, energy) elsewhere.

I agree with you that at the beginning of a relationship, when things are fragile already, unemployment can be a deal breaker.

Sounds like you guys left the budding relationship on good terms (which is a good reason to leave relationships in a positive way as best as possible), who knows what the future holds?  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#53 Steph</p>
<p>Sounds like this was a good guy, trying to do the best  he could.  Interesting thing about men that you probably have already realized.  Their jobs/careers are often their  mission in life, their passion (not always, but usually).  Not to mention it indicates their ability to provide.  When this takes a hit, their masculinity takes a hit.  Obviously everyone is different and every situation is different, so I&#8217;m sure it affects men in different ways and some are able to &#8216;handle&#8217; it better than others.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m sure you were very disappointed and hurt, I think he did the mature/good character thing in letting you go (although a phone call would have been nice!).  You weren&#8217;t giving him ANY pressure and was very understanding, but bottom line, a relationship does take focus and energy.  I&#8217;m sure he wanted to do his best in that with you, and knew he couldn&#8217;t with this career change to work out.</p>
<p>Finally, men generally can&#8217;t multitask like women can, especially when it&#8217;s big things like career.  They tend to have to devote their attention to one thing (and a big one at that, don&#8217;t want to minimize it) before they feel like they have that handled and can relax a little to devote a part of their resources (time, attention, energy) elsewhere.</p>
<p>I agree with you that at the beginning of a relationship, when things are fragile already, unemployment can be a deal breaker.</p>
<p>Sounds like you guys left the budding relationship on good terms (which is a good reason to leave relationships in a positive way as best as possible), who knows what the future holds?  <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 05:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a relationship with a man who had only been able to get part-time work for several years before I met him, and had just gotten out of a Masters program to change his career path.  I thought he was wonderful: smart, good values, good-looking and kind.  I have known many people with great jobs that didn&#039;t have any of that, so I gladly dated him, keeping our activities free or low-cost so that it didn&#039;t become an issue.

During our several months together, he went on many interviews, but had no luck finding something.  While this didn&#039;t bother me, he went from wanting a marriage-bound relationship with me to not breaking up over email, saying that he couldn&#039;t commit his energy to a relationship, even though I was understanding and not pressuring him.

I do think that over time, unemployment can become a serious issue that undermines whatever you might be building together. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a relationship with a man who had only been able to get part-time work for several years before I met him, and had just gotten out of a Masters program to change his career path.  I thought he was wonderful: smart, good values, good-looking and kind.  I have known many people with great jobs that didn&#8217;t have any of that, so I gladly dated him, keeping our activities free or low-cost so that it didn&#8217;t become an issue.</p>
<p>During our several months together, he went on many interviews, but had no luck finding something.  While this didn&#8217;t bother me, he went from wanting a marriage-bound relationship with me to not breaking up over email, saying that he couldn&#8217;t commit his energy to a relationship, even though I was understanding and not pressuring him.</p>
<p>I do think that over time, unemployment can become a serious issue that undermines whatever you might be building together. </p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George, you fall in love with someone based on their values, which are inherently reflected/demonstrated in all the actions they choose to take. Having roommates is one of those actions by which you can determine someone&#039;s values (though, as this excellent discussion illuminates, you can&#039;t make as many assumptions as you think you can).

For me, responsibility, self-reliance, and a healthy skepticism about getting into a situation in which someone could take you for a financial ride are the values demonstrated by living alone. Others have different arguments - no less valid given their own experiences, but not something that is going to affect my interpretation.

My boyfriend has $150K in student loan and consumer debt. We rent a tiny apartment because that&#039;s all we can afford. I redirected my entire career for my relationship and put 15K miles on my car visiting him prior to moving in with him - spending significant amounts of time and money that he never reciprocated because he couldn&#039;t afford to. If I were in it for money, I&#039;d be in it with someone else. But instead, I don&#039;t just stay, I&#039;m blissfully happy, because we share the same values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, you fall in love with someone based on their values, which are inherently reflected/demonstrated in all the actions they choose to take. Having roommates is one of those actions by which you can determine someone&#8217;s values (though, as this excellent discussion illuminates, you can&#8217;t make as many assumptions as you think you can).</p>
<p>For me, responsibility, self-reliance, and a healthy skepticism about getting into a situation in which someone could take you for a financial ride are the values demonstrated by living alone. Others have different arguments &#8211; no less valid given their own experiences, but not something that is going to affect my interpretation.</p>
<p>My boyfriend has $150K in student loan and consumer debt. We rent a tiny apartment because that&#8217;s all we can afford. I redirected my entire career for my relationship and put 15K miles on my car visiting him prior to moving in with him &#8211; spending significant amounts of time and money that he never reciprocated because he couldn&#8217;t afford to. If I were in it for money, I&#8217;d be in it with someone else. But instead, I don&#8217;t just stay, I&#8217;m blissfully happy, because we share the same values.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honey is proof that women are TOTAL LIARS about them looking for &quot;love&quot;.

Love is not about money, roomates, looks, and $#!+ like that.

Women say that men are terrible, liars, only interested in physical beauty. Yes it&#039;s mostly true. They conveniently not mention, however, that they are not 100% right 100% saintly.

Women look for money, trophies, status enhancers... if not they always date bad boys, rock guitarists... but love??? 

HAHAHAHAHAHA. The PROOF is they do NOT look for REAL LOVE.

I&#039;ve never seen a rich man alone. All the musicians I met had girlfriends. I&#039;ve seen great guys being tricked or ignored by women &#039;cause they are not hot or in fashion. Yet women still paint themselves as the victims. BS.

And if the ladies (who are about to go on the defensive since I questioned their unquestionable perfection and godliness) wonder... I&#039;ve dated overweight women and I fell in love with a woman with 3 kids who would not consider me.

I could very well be a Mr. Mom and take the place women previously had and I&#039;m willing, but women still expect us to pay everything and do everything.
I realized being alone is best. I haven&#039;t found any really good women (includes the overweights, who actually still expect Brad Pitt to come into the door and take them). It&#039;s always about them and them and gimme gimme gimme. Women feel like they are Gods and should never ever be questioned because they are always 100% right.

I do not consider myself a loser. Loser is a man who wastes money, time, and feelings on a woman incapable of knowing what love is, and that&#039;s most of them.

Signed,
Unemployed with two degrees and honors who believed all that crap about women seeking &quot; honesty&#039; and &quot;sincerity&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honey is proof that women are TOTAL LIARS about them looking for &#8220;love&#8221;.</p>
<p>Love is not about money, roomates, looks, and $#!+ like that.</p>
<p>Women say that men are terrible, liars, only interested in physical beauty. Yes it&#8217;s mostly true. They conveniently not mention, however, that they are not 100% right 100% saintly.</p>
<p>Women look for money, trophies, status enhancers&#8230; if not they always date bad boys, rock guitarists&#8230; but love??? </p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA. The PROOF is they do NOT look for REAL LOVE.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never seen a rich man alone. All the musicians I met had girlfriends. I&#8217;ve seen great guys being tricked or ignored by women &#8217;cause they are not hot or in fashion. Yet women still paint themselves as the victims. BS.</p>
<p>And if the ladies (who are about to go on the defensive since I questioned their unquestionable perfection and godliness) wonder&#8230; I&#8217;ve dated overweight women and I fell in love with a woman with 3 kids who would not consider me.</p>
<p>I could very well be a Mr. Mom and take the place women previously had and I&#8217;m willing, but women still expect us to pay everything and do everything.<br />
I realized being alone is best. I haven&#8217;t found any really good women (includes the overweights, who actually still expect Brad Pitt to come into the door and take them). It&#8217;s always about them and them and gimme gimme gimme. Women feel like they are Gods and should never ever be questioned because they are always 100% right.</p>
<p>I do not consider myself a loser. Loser is a man who wastes money, time, and feelings on a woman incapable of knowing what love is, and that&#8217;s most of them.</p>
<p>Signed,<br />
Unemployed with two degrees and honors who believed all that crap about women seeking &#8221; honesty&#8217; and &#8220;sincerity&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also do not recall recommending anyone else adopt my philosophy.  There is someone out there for everyone.  All I am saying is that nothing anyone has said has changed my philosophy, though I agree it has given me a lot to think about.  Which makes me happy.  And grateful.
.-= Honey&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://honeyandlance.com/good-news-follows-good-news-or-linkedin-works&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Good News Follows Good News: Or, LinkedIn Works!?&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also do not recall recommending anyone else adopt my philosophy.  There is someone out there for everyone.  All I am saying is that nothing anyone has said has changed my philosophy, though I agree it has given me a lot to think about.  Which makes me happy.  And grateful.<br />
.-= Honey&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://honeyandlance.com/good-news-follows-good-news-or-linkedin-works" rel="nofollow">Good News Follows Good News: Or, LinkedIn Works!?</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 05:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By largest I meant most populous, not by surface area. 

And my SHARE of the rent is $313.
.-= Honey&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://honeyandlance.com/get-fit-and-improve-your-dating-prospects&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Get Fit and Improve Your Dating Prospects&lt;/a&gt; =-.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By largest I meant most populous, not by surface area. </p>
<p>And my SHARE of the rent is $313.<br />
.-= Honey&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://honeyandlance.com/get-fit-and-improve-your-dating-prospects" rel="nofollow">Get Fit and Improve Your Dating Prospects</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Honey #44

Read #46 &amp; #47.   They live in the Washington D.C. Area like I do.   Single bedroom apartments start about $1000 a month in any neighborhood that is not high crime or on the periphery of the DC Metro area.    Rents are similar or more expensive in Philadelphia, Baltimore, NYC.

Again,  your situation is not everybody else&#039;s situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Honey #44</p>
<p>Read #46 &amp; #47.   They live in the Washington D.C. Area like I do.   Single bedroom apartments start about $1000 a month in any neighborhood that is not high crime or on the periphery of the DC Metro area.    Rents are similar or more expensive in Philadelphia, Baltimore, NYC.</p>
<p>Again,  your situation is not everybody else&#8217;s situation.</p>
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