Comments on: How Long Should I Wait for Him to Commit to Me? http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:00:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: NonExist http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-256418 NonExist Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:22:49 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-256418 Regarding Jennifer, I totally agree with Evan. She should most definitely get rid of this guy because he is using her as a stopgap. The emotional length I could understand out of his fear if it were the only component. But him still having his profile up means that he is still actively looking for someone else despite having "friends" listed. Personally if I am spending the whole weekend with a woman, every weekend for three months I'd have already asked her to be exclusively my girlfriend. Otherwise I would not be spending every whole weekend with her. As far as contact during the week, I'm not a very verbal person and since not much about current events really motivates me to talk about it at length, I may not call but once or twice.  But I would be willing to listen to whatever my SO had to say when I did. Regarding Jennifer, I totally agree with Evan.
She should most definitely get rid of this guy because he is using her as a stopgap.
The emotional length I could understand out of his fear if it were the only component.
But him still having his profile up means that he is still actively looking for someone else despite having “friends” listed.

Personally if I am spending the whole weekend with a woman, every weekend for three months I’d have already asked her to be exclusively my girlfriend. Otherwise I would not be spending every whole weekend with her.

As far as contact during the week, I’m not a very verbal person and since not much about current events really motivates me to talk about it at length, I may not call but once or twice.  But I would be willing to listen to whatever my SO had to say when I did.

]]> By: Jessie http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-252849 Jessie Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:37:53 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-252849 Wow! I was in the same boat up until two days ago. I met a guy on a dating site. It seemed like we had a lot in common. Said he had dated girls in the past that had kids and one girl that had no job for 3 years. I have everything together. Been seeing him for seven months. I finally just lost it on him. He only has three days off a week and we always hung out on two of the three days. He was constantly still on the dating site. I badgered him so much about it that he finally hid his profile or maybe he cancelled his membership. We got into it in a text message argument because he just said he wasn't ready for a relationship. I explained I am in my thirties and I was looking to get married and have kids so I asked that he not waste my time. It just made me mad that he complained about about all the other people he went out with and he was still fishing around. He said because he "paid" for it. Which I thought was ridiculous. After our argument, the next day he was back on the dating site and even put something on Facebook that said he was single even though he never even put on there he was in a relationship anyway. I deactivated my page and he thought I deleted him. When he saw I was on chat he deleted it immediately. This guy is 30 years old. Talk about immature. I just never knew this type existed. There are the players and you can tell but it's hard to figure it out when someone is constantly taking you on dates, you assume they like you, just to find out later, they have their own selfish intentions. Well, Karma is a bitch. They can keep going on these dating sites fishing around for Ms. Perfect. Good luck to them. The funny thing is I was kind of trapped because I told him I went on some dates on the dating site and he said I was shady. Really? You're not ready for a relationship, but I can't go on dates with other guys? What kind of crap is that? Wow! I was in the same boat up until two days ago. I met a guy on a dating site. It seemed like we had a lot in common. Said he had dated girls in the past that had kids and one girl that had no job for 3 years. I have everything together. Been seeing him for seven months. I finally just lost it on him. He only has three days off a week and we always hung out on two of the three days. He was constantly still on the dating site. I badgered him so much about it that he finally hid his profile or maybe he cancelled his membership. We got into it in a text message argument because he just said he wasn’t ready for a relationship. I explained I am in my thirties and I was looking to get married and have kids so I asked that he not waste my time. It just made me mad that he complained about about all the other people he went out with and he was still fishing around. He said because he “paid” for it. Which I thought was ridiculous. After our argument, the next day he was back on the dating site and even put something on Facebook that said he was single even though he never even put on there he was in a relationship anyway. I deactivated my page and he thought I deleted him. When he saw I was on chat he deleted it immediately. This guy is 30 years old. Talk about immature. I just never knew this type existed. There are the players and you can tell but it’s hard to figure it out when someone is constantly taking you on dates, you assume they like you, just to find out later, they have their own selfish intentions. Well, Karma is a bitch. They can keep going on these dating sites fishing around for Ms. Perfect. Good luck to them. The funny thing is I was kind of trapped because I told him I went on some dates on the dating site and he said I was shady. Really? You’re not ready for a relationship, but I can’t go on dates with other guys? What kind of crap is that?

]]> By: DMC http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-241477 DMC Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:00:19 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-241477 The only part I agree with Evan on is the dating site thing - that is definitely a red flag.  If he was serious, he would cut that off. I don't think the arms-length thing is a bad excuse at all.  You are basically assuming he is lying and don't really offer him any way to prove your accusation wrong.  It's sort of like when someone says "if you disagree with me, you are an idiot!".  If they don't disagree, you win, and if they do, well they just walked right into your point! Also the weekend girlfriend thing I see as a good sign.  How do you know he isn't busy with work and such during the week?  If he was really looking to play the field, he likely wouldn't be tying up his prime free time (weekends) with one woman.  Now if he was making time for you/steady loving on Tues and Thursday only, THEN I could see a problem. Pushing for a conversation he isn't ready to have is no different than the pressure a man puts on you to have sex when you aren't ready.  The only part I agree with Evan on is the dating site thing – that is definitely a red flag.  If he was serious, he would cut that off.

I don’t think the arms-length thing is a bad excuse at all.  You are basically assuming he is lying and don’t really offer him any way to prove your accusation wrong.  It’s sort of like when someone says “if you disagree with me, you are an idiot!”.  If they don’t disagree, you win, and if they do, well they just walked right into your point!

Also the weekend girlfriend thing I see as a good sign.  How do you know he isn’t busy with work and such during the week?  If he was really looking to play the field, he likely wouldn’t be tying up his prime free time (weekends) with one woman.  Now if he was making time for you/steady loving on Tues and Thursday only, THEN I could see a problem.

Pushing for a conversation he isn’t ready to have is no different than the pressure a man puts on you to have sex when you aren’t ready. 

]]> By: bratzygal http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-224037 bratzygal Mon, 19 Dec 2011 11:06:27 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-224037 What an amazing post to stumble across. I was trying to workout if I was going to overreact about my BF of 3 months still having an active online dating profile. We have been seeing each other for 3 months, ringing and emailing every second night and seeing each other every two weeks for a few nights (we live five hours apart). We had "the talk" more then two weeks ago where we stand with loyalty and that we are in a relationship & he had said that he was going to close his profile. He rings me yesterday afternoon and says that he received an email from a lady who lives half an hour away from him and she like hunting too and would it bother me if he emailed her back and said they could be friends? I asked if he was serious, his profile still said he was looking for "dating & relationship" & that he had said he would close it. He said that I was just being jealous & there is no difference to walking up the street and a random person stops you in the street and says, hey nice dogs, let go pighunting and you strike up a friendship. I told him the difference is that he is initiating new female friendships from a dating site and that is disrespectful to me. I am all for him having friends but not like that, the intentions are not exactly pure are they. Anyway, after much thought, I decided I didn't like the way that made me feel and he has since updated his profile today telling people how to contact him on facebook and that he open to their communication. So....I have walked. Even though I am heartbroken, I feel good about my decision and standing up for myself and what I won't put up with in a relationship. How could I ever trust him now, his integrity has taken a battering. Plenty more fish in the sea I guess. Thanks everyone for the advice, it really helped.  What an amazing post to stumble across. I was trying to workout if I was going to overreact about my BF of 3 months still having an active online dating profile. We have been seeing each other for 3 months, ringing and emailing every second night and seeing each other every two weeks for a few nights (we live five hours apart). We had “the talk” more then two weeks ago where we stand with loyalty and that we are in a relationship & he had said that he was going to close his profile. He rings me yesterday afternoon and says that he received an email from a lady who lives half an hour away from him and she like hunting too and would it bother me if he emailed her back and said they could be friends? I asked if he was serious, his profile still said he was looking for “dating & relationship” & that he had said he would close it. He said that I was just being jealous & there is no difference to walking up the street and a random person stops you in the street and says, hey nice dogs, let go pighunting and you strike up a friendship. I told him the difference is that he is initiating new female friendships from a dating site and that is disrespectful to me. I am all for him having friends but not like that, the intentions are not exactly pure are they. Anyway, after much thought, I decided I didn’t like the way that made me feel and he has since updated his profile today telling people how to contact him on facebook and that he open to their communication. So….I have walked. Even though I am heartbroken, I feel good about my decision and standing up for myself and what I won’t put up with in a relationship. How could I ever trust him now, his integrity has taken a battering. Plenty more fish in the sea I guess. Thanks everyone for the advice, it really helped. 

]]> By: Yellow Hammer http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-218703 Yellow Hammer Tue, 13 Dec 2011 10:46:19 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-218703 I appreciate the amazing post :) I appreciate the amazing post :)

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-217975 Rebecca Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:44:49 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-217975 Lust is lust. Infatuation is not love. You are infatuated b/c you are uncertain. Love takes time. Relationships take years. Love doesn't happen in three months.  Do what you feel will make you happy in the end.   Lust is lust. Infatuation is not love. You are infatuated b/c you are uncertain. Love takes time. Relationships take years. Love doesn’t happen in three months. 
Do what you feel will make you happy in the end.  

]]> By: Chiquituno http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-212367 Chiquituno Sun, 04 Dec 2011 16:35:40 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-212367 "If he follows, he's your boyfriend". Probably not. He'll just follow you out of selfishness and will continue to use you. Keeping you as an option. You've expressed your needs. He can't meet them. He'll continue with his same MO. If he follows you with a different one, one that fits your needs, then maybe, just maybe, he'll be your boyfriend if you can truly communicate and make progress around those pink or red flags. Personally, I'd walk, mourn and move on. “If he follows, he’s your boyfriend”. Probably not. He’ll just follow you out of selfishness and will continue to use you. Keeping you as an option. You’ve expressed your needs. He can’t meet them. He’ll continue with his same MO. If he follows you with a different one, one that fits your needs, then maybe, just maybe, he’ll be your boyfriend if you can truly communicate and make progress around those pink or red flags. Personally, I’d walk, mourn and move on.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-204792 Michelle Sat, 19 Nov 2011 21:52:11 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-204792 As a woman you have to be clear what it is  you want.   If you don't specify then don't expect a commitment.   I would discuss your feelings after three months and tell him that you are at a stage in the relationship where you have deeper feelings.  If he does not repsond and is on match sites he is not interested in a long term relationship.  My opinion is to tell him how you feel, be clear, concise, and emotionless.  Don't cry, don't get mad, just be matter of fact.  If he says "I just want a friendship" then you need to either decide to wait it out or move on.  There are so many men  who do want a relaionship one guy is not worth so much energy.   You had sex with this guy too early and now you have the PEA punch in love.   I suggest you stop having sex with him until you get the desired response and if you don't, move on..... As a woman you have to be clear what it is  you want.   If you don’t specify then don’t expect a commitment.   I would discuss your feelings after three months and tell him that you are at a stage in the relationship where you have deeper feelings.  If he does not repsond and is on match sites he is not interested in a long term relationship.  My opinion is to tell him how you feel, be clear, concise, and emotionless.  Don’t cry, don’t get mad, just be matter of fact.  If he says “I just want a friendship” then you need to either decide to wait it out or move on.  There are so many men  who do want a relaionship one guy is not worth so much energy.   You had sex with this guy too early and now you have the PEA punch in love.   I suggest you stop having sex with him until you get the desired response and if you don’t, move on…..

]]> By: Ladybug http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-203447 Ladybug Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:44:24 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-203447 Debra #19 Eerily seems like we have the same man, your name being that of his exGF who he was going to try to get back together with last spring (but didn't) and moving in with his elderly mother last December.  I don't get weekends, being led to believe he is doing family stuff.  Since his mother hates my guts and I don't put up with her hagnasty, he is protecting both of us from her whack attacks.   I don't have him to my home during the week, either, and we don't have sex.   Unless you are one of the super rich, you wouldn't consider the guy a golddigger, though.   Weird.  I guess these same patterns are repeated everywhere.  I have no idea how old these posts are...... As far as timelines for commitments, there are far too many variables applying to individuals, their personhood, and situations for there to be rules. 3 months?  My man and I were just standing close enough and touching at 3 months.  His mother roared up in her Buick and wantd to know what he was doing in there.  She saw my truck.  "Just talking, Mom."   I roared with laughter, TEENAGE FLASHBACK!  We kissed a week later and I fainted. We've been seeing each other for 10 months and it was wow at first sight for both of us.  We met through business.  We still have a business arrangement that needs to be preserved.  That was a very dark time in both our lives, both of us beginning recovery from life changing losses and traumas.   More valid reasons to slow the Love Train down!  Nothing good comes from being two astroids hurtling through space on a collison course! He and I have taken breaks from each other for unfinished business of past relationships.   We both had exes who wanted to get back together.   I made it clear to him I do see other men because they are friendships, but he would remain the only one I make out with and I'm not having sex with anyone. In a small town it's easy to know everyone's business.   We've had misunderstandings, we get confused, we work it through, we communicate.    In the time we have between him running 3 businesses, being the sole carpenter and general contractor rebuilding his lovely home and putting up with his unreasonable mother, I see him striving to correct relationship mistakes of his past, struggling with emotional intimacy with me without hiding afterward.  I see his pain and insecurities.  He sees my vulnerability.   He knows when he screws up and he apologizes and corrects himself.   I do the same for him.  He is genuinely remorseful when something he does causes me to feel bad and we discuss needs and solutions. I do not behave the way typical women and girlfriends behave.  I refused to initiate The Talk About the Relationship.   When he brought it up, HE didn't know where it was going.  I said let it be here and now instead of trying to time warp.   When he gets too grumpy,  I give him a kiss and tell him I'm sorry he's having a bad day and I leave.   I'll show up in a couple of days or week when he's relaxing after work with a pie.  He lights up surpised like I'm not angry and yelling or that I bother to show up at all!  I get hugs and kisses, physical and emotional intimacy, validation, good conversation.  The man SHOWS me love in his face and his posture, the things he does for me and the respect he has for me.  He doesn't SAY the words...yet. So it's been 10 months without commitment.   I haven't asked for one.  I did tell him recently I hoped to someday have a real relationship with him.  That led to another level of vulnerability and disclosure of thoughts and feelings, it was good.   I see this shy man making an effort at relationship skills and emotional intimacy with me.  He's a man I've spent hours with talking and enjoying it.  I feel with as much as this adorable man has going on right now, as long as there's growth, I can wait until his house is finished, he's home again and he's not distracted and driven crazy by building inspectors, blueprint errors, subcontractors, wrong lumber orders and his hagnasty mother. We haven't had sex yet.    Wasn't there a timeline rule for that too?  3 dates, 10 dates or after we're married!??!  Meanwhile I still have a life of my own that includes lots of men. Debra #19

Eerily seems like we have the same man, your name being that of his exGF who he was going to try to get back together with last spring (but didn’t) and moving in with his elderly mother last December.  I don’t get weekends, being led to believe he is doing family stuff.  Since his mother hates my guts and I don’t put up with her hagnasty, he is protecting both of us from her whack attacks.   I don’t have him to my home during the week, either, and we don’t have sex.   Unless you are one of the super rich, you wouldn’t consider the guy a golddigger, though.   Weird.  I guess these same patterns are repeated everywhere. 

I have no idea how old these posts are……

As far as timelines for commitments, there are far too many variables applying to individuals, their personhood, and situations for there to be rules.

3 months?  My man and I were just standing close enough and touching at 3 months.  His mother roared up in her Buick and wantd to know what he was doing in there.  She saw my truck.  “Just talking, Mom.”   I roared with laughter, TEENAGE FLASHBACK!  We kissed a week later and I fainted.

We’ve been seeing each other for 10 months and it was wow at first sight for both of us.  We met through business.  We still have a business arrangement that needs to be preserved.  That was a very dark time in both our lives, both of us beginning recovery from life changing losses and traumas.   More valid reasons to slow the Love Train down!  Nothing good comes from being two astroids hurtling through space on a collison course!

He and I have taken breaks from each other for unfinished business of past relationships.   We both had exes who wanted to get back together.   I made it clear to him I do see other men because they are friendships, but he would remain the only one I make out with and I’m not having sex with anyone. In a small town it’s easy to know everyone’s business.   We’ve had misunderstandings, we get confused, we work it through, we communicate.   

In the time we have between him running 3 businesses, being the sole carpenter and general contractor rebuilding his lovely home and putting up with his unreasonable mother, I see him striving to correct relationship mistakes of his past, struggling with emotional intimacy with me without hiding afterward.  I see his pain and insecurities.  He sees my vulnerability.   He knows when he screws up and he apologizes and corrects himself.   I do the same for him.  He is genuinely remorseful when something he does causes me to feel bad and we discuss needs and solutions.

I do not behave the way typical women and girlfriends behave.  I refused to initiate The Talk About the Relationship.   When he brought it up, HE didn’t know where it was going.  I said let it be here and now instead of trying to time warp.   When he gets too grumpy,  I give him a kiss and tell him I’m sorry he’s having a bad day and I leave.   I’ll show up in a couple of days or week when he’s relaxing after work with a pie.  He lights up surpised like I’m not angry and yelling or that I bother to show up at all! 
I get hugs and kisses, physical and emotional intimacy, validation, good conversation.  The man SHOWS me love in his face and his posture, the things he does for me and the respect he has for me.  He doesn’t SAY the words…yet.

So it’s been 10 months without commitment.   I haven’t asked for one.  I did tell him recently I hoped to someday have a real relationship with him.  That led to another level of vulnerability and disclosure of thoughts and feelings, it was good.   I see this shy man making an effort at relationship skills and emotional intimacy with me.  He’s a man I’ve spent hours with talking and enjoying it.  I feel with as much as this adorable man has going on right now, as long as there’s growth, I can wait until his house is finished, he’s home again and he’s not distracted and driven crazy by building inspectors, blueprint errors, subcontractors, wrong lumber orders and his hagnasty mother.

We haven’t had sex yet.    Wasn’t there a timeline rule for that too?  3 dates, 10 dates or after we’re married!??! 

Meanwhile I still have a life of my own that includes lots of men.

]]> By: DENA http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/comment-page-2/#comment-200565 DENA Sat, 12 Nov 2011 10:51:51 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-long-should-i-wait-for-him-to-commit-to-me/#comment-200565 I am in the same boat, went through all the bullshit and to think im moving forward ... it was just the wind blowing threw my hair when i looked back to see myself still standing there in deep thought second guessing myself on just the time thats passing me bye , Waiting on this guy.... ive been with this guy for 6 years and let me tell u,... in any other relationship before this, the shit that he has done or said or have treated,... he wouldve been toast.... but i take it, and i deal with it and i cant figure it out to save my little cotten socks... but just as u described... thats how it was for me to.... i later learned that i wasnt the only one that he was involved with.....if u continue this before its to late your going to go through what im going through and let me say this only once.....WHEN SOMEONE PLAYS GAMES WITH SOMEONES HEAD AND MIND AND MOSTLY THEIR HEART..... AND TO THINK ITS FUNNY AND LAUGH ABOUT THEM IN THEIR FACE, OVER HEAR YOUR CONVERSATIONS AND TO BE CONFRONTED TO ONLY GET LIED TO TO MAKE YOU THINK UR HEARING THINGS OR YOUR CRAZY ITS "ALL IN  YOUR HEAD BULLSHIT" CRAP,DONT THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT THE PERSON YOUR DOING THIS TOO, MAY TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL.... CAUSE IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS HAVE ALMOST TAKE'N ME TO THAT LEVEL... "6 FEET UNDER"..... THE ONLY REASON WHY HE WILL ONLY SEE YOU A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK IS BECAUSE HES WITH SOMEONE ELSE. YOUR NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON HIS LIST....AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS.... but its gonna get worse if u stay.... dont be stupid like me. learn from me.... trust what im saying... pay attention to EVERYTHING , times, dates, phone numbers everything as far even conversations with u and him and friends u both keep.... ull definitly catch him... if he hass a cell phone look at the text messages.... send them to ur phone and dont tell him anything unless u have enough evidence to fry him on... cause little bye little wont cut it.... be on top of ur game and TRUST NO ONE cause everyone is fucking ur man and ur eating all ur friends and everyone elses pussy too. (keep that in mind) yuk! sorry to be so blunt,... cant help it, better to just say as i see it....and more then likely he doesnt wear a condom either cause "who wears condoms with their wife or girlfriends"? hmmmmm? take my advice and leave him. hes a liar and a cheat!!  I am in the same boat, went through all the bullshit and to think im moving forward … it was just the wind blowing threw my hair when i looked back to see myself still standing there in deep thought second guessing myself on just the time thats passing me bye , Waiting on this guy….
ive been with this guy for 6 years and let me tell u,… in any other relationship before this, the shit that he has done or said or have treated,… he wouldve been toast…. but i take it, and i deal with it and i cant figure it out to save my little cotten socks…

but just as u described… thats how it was for me to…. i later learned that i wasnt the only one that he was involved with…..if u continue this before its to late your going to go through what im going through and let me say this only once…..WHEN SOMEONE PLAYS GAMES WITH SOMEONES HEAD AND MIND AND MOSTLY THEIR HEART….. AND TO THINK ITS FUNNY AND LAUGH ABOUT THEM IN THEIR FACE, OVER HEAR YOUR CONVERSATIONS AND TO BE CONFRONTED TO ONLY GET LIED TO TO MAKE YOU THINK UR HEARING THINGS OR YOUR CRAZY ITS “ALL IN  YOUR HEAD BULLSHIT” CRAP,DONT THINK FOR ONE SECOND THAT THE PERSON YOUR DOING THIS TOO, MAY TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL….
CAUSE IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS HAVE ALMOST TAKE’N ME TO THAT LEVEL… “6 FEET UNDER”…..

THE ONLY REASON WHY HE WILL ONLY SEE YOU A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK IS BECAUSE HES WITH SOMEONE ELSE. YOUR NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON HIS LIST….AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS…. but its gonna get worse if u stay…. dont be stupid like me. learn from me…. trust what im saying… pay attention to EVERYTHING , times, dates, phone numbers everything as far even conversations with u and him and friends u both keep…. ull definitly catch him… if he hass a cell phone look at the text messages…. send them to ur phone and dont tell him anything unless u have enough evidence to fry him on… cause little bye little wont cut it…. be on top of ur game and TRUST NO ONE cause everyone is fucking ur man and ur eating all ur friends and everyone elses pussy too. (keep that in mind) yuk! sorry to be so blunt,… cant help it, better to just say as i see it….and more then likely he doesnt wear a condom either cause “who wears condoms with their wife or girlfriends”? hmmmmm? take my advice and leave him. hes a liar and a cheat!! 

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