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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-much-lying-is-acceptable-online-2/comment-page-2/#comment-99901</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Nov 2010 16:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[11/25/10

@Kaitlyn 79 

You are right in the &quot;real world&quot; people don&#039;t ask SOME of those questions directly but as a man in the &quot;real world&quot; women would and still do &quot;qualify&quot; me by using conversation type qualifying questions like &quot;where did you go to school?&quot; ie: are you educated with a degree and if so where from? Or the famous one we men always get asked in social situations &quot;what do you do?&quot; ie: How much money do you make?Do you have a good job title? Can you afford me? 

Of course we ask women &quot;if they&#039;re single&quot; we want to gage their answer for interest.I also ask how many kids/ages in conversation so I know what I&#039;m dealing with. 

So yes in the real world upon meeting each other men and woman go about getting info and qualifying each other in different ways for different reasons but the internet has turned the &quot;qualifying&quot; process on it&#039;s head.

It&#039;s real easy for most of the women on this blog to say &quot;just be 100% honest and let the cards fall where they may&quot; that&#039;s because you guys have never been a MAN online to see what goes on from our perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11/25/10</p>
<p>@Kaitlyn 79 </p>
<p>You are right in the &#8220;real world&#8221; people don&#8217;t ask SOME of those questions directly but as a man in the &#8220;real world&#8221; women would and still do &#8220;qualify&#8221; me by using conversation type qualifying questions like &#8220;where did you go to school?&#8221; ie: are you educated with a degree and if so where from? Or the famous one we men always get asked in social situations &#8220;what do you do?&#8221; ie: How much money do you make?Do you have a good job title? Can you afford me? </p>
<p>Of course we ask women &#8220;if they&#8217;re single&#8221; we want to gage their answer for interest.I also ask how many kids/ages in conversation so I know what I&#8217;m dealing with. </p>
<p>So yes in the real world upon meeting each other men and woman go about getting info and qualifying each other in different ways for different reasons but the internet has turned the &#8220;qualifying&#8221; process on it&#8217;s head.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s real easy for most of the women on this blog to say &#8220;just be 100% honest and let the cards fall where they may&#8221; that&#8217;s because you guys have never been a MAN online to see what goes on from our perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;Just remember even if you don’t lie,you’re competing with AND emailng to people that are. You can’t change human nature.Fight fire with fire.&quot;

&lt;/em&gt;Two wrongs don&#039;t make it right.

One attracts those of similar maturity and character.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Just remember even if you don’t lie,you’re competing with AND emailng to people that are. You can’t change human nature.Fight fire with fire.&#8221;</p>
<p></em>Two wrongs don&#8217;t make it right.</p>
<p>One attracts those of similar maturity and character.</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Being authentic, if a person can&#039;t be authentic, then what&#039;s the point?  That&#039;s either on line or in person.  I am completely honest in my profile, about everything.  It doesn&#039;t feel right not to be completely honest, I am who I am and the man that wants me, wants me for exactly who I am.  

What I have found with on line dating and this approach, if I think about it, is I weed out people who don&#039;t have the integrity and values that I appreciate.  I may not get as many interactions, but the ones I do get are of high quality.  I also never have to worry about remembering what I said on line, and I can focus on the person I am with, getting to know them, instead of being in my head, being someone I&#039;m not.  (Most of the on line profiles I read of men, and I&#039;ve read a lot!, comment that they just want the woman to be herself, to be authentic :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being authentic, if a person can&#8217;t be authentic, then what&#8217;s the point?  That&#8217;s either on line or in person.  I am completely honest in my profile, about everything.  It doesn&#8217;t feel right not to be completely honest, I am who I am and the man that wants me, wants me for exactly who I am.  </p>
<p>What I have found with on line dating and this approach, if I think about it, is I weed out people who don&#8217;t have the integrity and values that I appreciate.  I may not get as many interactions, but the ones I do get are of high quality.  I also never have to worry about remembering what I said on line, and I can focus on the person I am with, getting to know them, instead of being in my head, being someone I&#8217;m not.  (Most of the on line profiles I read of men, and I&#8217;ve read a lot!, comment that they just want the woman to be herself, to be authentic <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-much-lying-is-acceptable-online-2/comment-page-2/#comment-96532</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 03:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[11/19/10

@tk #78 &quot;&lt;em&gt;Sorry,you got thru the door but you&#039;re not staying in&quot;

&lt;/em&gt;I&#039;ve &quot;gotten thru the door&quot; plenty of times and left when &quot;I&quot; decided to.If I could get responses by being 100% honest instead of &quot;fudging&quot; on things that are irrelevant and not physical,like,income,education,saying I&#039;m &quot;divorced&quot; even though I&#039;ve never been married...yadda yadda,yadda.After 13 yrs,I&#039;ve learned the hard way.Some responses/dates are better than none.Just remember even if you don&#039;t lie,you&#039;re competing with AND emailng to people that are. You can&#039;t change human nature.Fight fire with fire.

The internet has changed the dating/relationship landscape so drastically to the point where everyone has pointed out above,people(women) check off &quot;little boxes&quot; and when Mr.Model/Masters Degree/100K doesn&#039;t show up they say &quot;I tried the internet,there&#039;s no good men on there&quot;. Oh well.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11/19/10</p>
<p>@tk #78 &#8220;<em>Sorry,you got thru the door but you&#8217;re not staying in&#8221;</p>
<p></em>I&#8217;ve &#8220;gotten thru the door&#8221; plenty of times and left when &#8220;I&#8221; decided to.If I could get responses by being 100% honest instead of &#8220;fudging&#8221; on things that are irrelevant and not physical,like,income,education,saying I&#8217;m &#8220;divorced&#8221; even though I&#8217;ve never been married&#8230;yadda yadda,yadda.After 13 yrs,I&#8217;ve learned the hard way.Some responses/dates are better than none.Just remember even if you don&#8217;t lie,you&#8217;re competing with AND emailng to people that are. You can&#8217;t change human nature.Fight fire with fire.</p>
<p>The internet has changed the dating/relationship landscape so drastically to the point where everyone has pointed out above,people(women) check off &#8220;little boxes&#8221; and when Mr.Model/Masters Degree/100K doesn&#8217;t show up they say &#8220;I tried the internet,there&#8217;s no good men on there&#8221;. Oh well&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Kaitlyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think people lie in online dating because they can.  In the &#039;real world&#039; of dating, a man would never think of walking up to a woman asking her age, salary, if she was divorced or single...height, etc.  Same thing with a woman meeting a man.

When online dating you can choose to only look at men/women that are between X and Y years of age, make $x amount, have X education,etc.  It is strange if you think about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people lie in online dating because they can.  In the &#8216;real world&#8217; of dating, a man would never think of walking up to a woman asking her age, salary, if she was divorced or single&#8230;height, etc.  Same thing with a woman meeting a man.</p>
<p>When online dating you can choose to only look at men/women that are between X and Y years of age, make $x amount, have X education,etc.  It is strange if you think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: tk</title>
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		<dc:creator>tk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 21:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I went out on a date with a guy who listed 30 and was really 40.  He looked really young, but I was turned off by the fact that he LIED!!!  Sorry, you got thru the door, but you are not staying in.  Honesty is always the best policy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went out on a date with a guy who listed 30 and was really 40.  He looked really young, but I was turned off by the fact that he LIED!!!  Sorry, you got thru the door, but you are not staying in.  Honesty is always the best policy!</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just like when someone hires a stylist (to dress better) or a personal trainer at the gym (to get a better looking body,) hiring a dating coach - or a personal trainer for love - is simply a smart choice to be successful at dating, especially in such a competitive arena as online dating where first impressions are &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt;. People can be terrible writers -&quot;unable to write their way out of a paper bag&quot; - but have very interesting lives and just need some help &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.e-cyrano.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;translating it into a good profile&lt;/a&gt;. Someone&#039;s blah &quot;I love to travel&quot; becomes &quot;I love walking the cobblestone streets in San Miguel de Allende, browsing the open market for locally woven rugs, hitting Alhombra behind the Parroquia for posole, and finishing the night with salsa dancing under the stars.&quot; When someone helps you write a profile, it&#039;s not &lt;em&gt;lying&lt;/em&gt;; they&#039;re helping you become specific about your experiences and desires.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like when someone hires a stylist (to dress better) or a personal trainer at the gym (to get a better looking body,) hiring a dating coach &#8211; or a personal trainer for love &#8211; is simply a smart choice to be successful at dating, especially in such a competitive arena as online dating where first impressions are <em>everything</em>. People can be terrible writers -&#8221;unable to write their way out of a paper bag&#8221; &#8211; but have very interesting lives and just need some help <a href="http://www.e-cyrano.com/" rel="nofollow">translating it into a good profile</a>. Someone&#8217;s blah &#8220;I love to travel&#8221; becomes &#8220;I love walking the cobblestone streets in San Miguel de Allende, browsing the open market for locally woven rugs, hitting Alhombra behind the Parroquia for posole, and finishing the night with salsa dancing under the stars.&#8221; When someone helps you write a profile, it&#8217;s not <em>lying</em>; they&#8217;re helping you become specific about your experiences and desires.</p>
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		<title>By: Slim P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slim P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve posed this question here before - quite a while ago - but if someone can&#039;t write their way out of a wet paper bag is it lying if they hire Evan here to help put together a profile?  Actually I&#039;m not quite sure exactly what it is that Evan does,  but I gather creating a profile is part of it.
Personally I&#039;d be upset if I responded to a well written profile,  only to find a ghost writer lurking in the background.   I&#039;d figure that out before any sort of meeting, because I liked (taken) a fair amount of email chat first, but would be none too happy about the wasted time anyway.  I suspect many might not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posed this question here before &#8211; quite a while ago &#8211; but if someone can&#8217;t write their way out of a wet paper bag is it lying if they hire Evan here to help put together a profile?  Actually I&#8217;m not quite sure exactly what it is that Evan does,  but I gather creating a profile is part of it.<br />
Personally I&#8217;d be upset if I responded to a well written profile,  only to find a ghost writer lurking in the background.   I&#8217;d figure that out before any sort of meeting, because I liked (taken) a fair amount of email chat first, but would be none too happy about the wasted time anyway.  I suspect many might not.</p>
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		<title>By: No Crap</title>
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		<dc:creator>No Crap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 07:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Been Thru the Wars #28
 
If I found out a man was a smoker, I would drop him like a hot rock.  Even if it were the day before the wedding, I would cancel the ceremony.  If I found out after the wedding, I would have the marriage annulled or divorce him.  Smoking is that much of an absolute deal breaker for me.
 
While I do sympatize because of the risks to your health, you knew what you were getting into.  Maybe I&#039;m just a hard-ass, but I can&#039;t ever imagine being so much &quot;in love&quot; that I would be willing to risk lung cancer from second hand smoke.  Don&#039;t you feel betrayed?  I would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Been Thru the Wars #28<br />
 <br />
If I found out a man was a smoker, I would drop him like a hot rock.  Even if it were the day before the wedding, I would cancel the ceremony.  If I found out after the wedding, I would have the marriage annulled or divorce him.  Smoking is that much of an absolute deal breaker for me.<br />
 <br />
While I do sympatize because of the risks to your health, you knew what you were getting into.  Maybe I&#8217;m just a hard-ass, but I can&#8217;t ever imagine being so much &#8220;in love&#8221; that I would be willing to risk lung cancer from second hand smoke.  Don&#8217;t you feel betrayed?  I would.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
		<link>http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/how-much-lying-is-acceptable-online-2/comment-page-2/#comment-80378</link>
		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[8/26/10

@Tall #72
&lt;em&gt;If someone passes you by because you&#039;re 3 inches on height or 5 years on age who cares their are thousands more WILL welcome you.

&lt;/em&gt;That&#039;s a statement coming from a woman who&#039;s never been a man trying to date online.There&#039; AREN&#039;T thousands more who welcome you.If that were true no men would lie because they would have too many options with 100% honest profile&lt;em&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;There are very few for most average men.

And to try and explain to you why women prefer tall/taller men?........It has nothing to do with sexual positions and everything to do with feeling feminine to the mans masculine. At 5&#039;9&quot; I totally understand why women that are 5&#039;8&quot; won&#039;t answer me online.I don&#039;t like it but I understand it.I actually prefer women that are shorter than me but I would never disqualify a woman who was attractive just because she was taller than me within reason.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8/26/10</p>
<p>@Tall #72<br />
<em>If someone passes you by because you&#8217;re 3 inches on height or 5 years on age who cares their are thousands more WILL welcome you.</p>
<p></em>That&#8217;s a statement coming from a woman who&#8217;s never been a man trying to date online.There&#8217; AREN&#8217;T thousands more who welcome you.If that were true no men would lie because they would have too many options with 100% honest profile<em>.</em>There are very few for most average men.</p>
<p>And to try and explain to you why women prefer tall/taller men?&#8230;&#8230;..It has nothing to do with sexual positions and everything to do with feeling feminine to the mans masculine. At 5&#8217;9&#8243; I totally understand why women that are 5&#8217;8&#8243; won&#8217;t answer me online.I don&#8217;t like it but I understand it.I actually prefer women that are shorter than me but I would never disqualify a woman who was attractive just because she was taller than me within reason.</p>
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