Comments on: If Men Like Only Hot Women, Where Does That Leave an Average Woman Like Me? http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/ Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:05:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: leah http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-54074 leah Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:44:30 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-54074 Woman here, OBVIOUSLY men are attracted to the hottest women they can get - why wouldnt they be?? Why is this even a question?? That being sad, i think the real problem is that women are told not to be that concered with looks, to be more deeper, more about the substance.  Like someone earlier mentioned - "Women are supposed to be less shallow". WHY? this is what bugs me..i think women have continuesly been cultured ( and im not saying in the 21st century as obviously we have seen some progress, although old mores die slowly) disregard their sexual needs. THAT's the real problem. now, i am woman, and i am shallow. and not shallow in the way that i want a man with money. on no gentelmen - I WANT A HOT MAN. there, i sad it. and im not ashamed about it. I'm sorry but i cant help being attracted to who i am attracted to. end of story. Woman here, OBVIOUSLY men are attracted to the hottest women they can get – why wouldnt they be?? Why is this even a question??

That being sad, i think the real problem is that women are told not to be that concered with looks, to be more deeper, more about the substance.  Like someone earlier mentioned – “Women are supposed to be less shallow”. WHY? this is what bugs me..i think women have continuesly been cultured ( and im not saying in the 21st century as obviously we have seen some progress, although old mores die slowly) disregard their sexual needs. THAT’s the real problem.
now, i am woman, and i am shallow. and not shallow in the way that i want a man with money. on no gentelmen – I WANT A HOT MAN. there, i sad it. and im not ashamed about it. I’m sorry but i cant help being attracted to who i am attracted to. end of story.

]]> By: A-L http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-54072 A-L Wed, 23 Dec 2009 23:13:29 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-54072 If people are dancing, yeah, the short woman will be the first to be "snatched up" and put in the air.  But as far as dating goes, not necessarily.  Some tall guys find it uncomfortable having to lean far down (though certainly not all).  And some average to shorter guys aren't interested in short women because they fear that their children (particularly sons) will have no hope whatsoever of being taller and will face the problems that short men face.  In fact, my 5'7-8" boyfriend used to be of that mindset.  But he's changed his mind. :) All this to say that shorties aren't necessarily persecuted, but they're not at the top of the totem pole either.  I'd probably say 5-4"-5'7" gets top selection as being neither too tall nor too short. If people are dancing, yeah, the short woman will be the first to be “snatched up” and put in the air.  But as far as dating goes, not necessarily.  Some tall guys find it uncomfortable having to lean far down (though certainly not all).  And some average to shorter guys aren’t interested in short women because they fear that their children (particularly sons) will have no hope whatsoever of being taller and will face the problems that short men face.  In fact, my 5′7-8″ boyfriend used to be of that mindset.  But he’s changed his mind. :) All this to say that shorties aren’t necessarily persecuted, but they’re not at the top of the totem pole either.  I’d probably say 5-4″-5′7″ gets top selection as being neither too tall nor too short.

]]> By: sayanta http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-54068 sayanta Wed, 23 Dec 2009 22:09:57 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-54068 yeah- I also have noticed that short women are usually the ones who get 'snatched up' first. yeah- I also have noticed that short women are usually the ones who get ’snatched up’ first.

]]> By: JerseyGirl http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-54058 JerseyGirl Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:41:50 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-54058 There is nothing wrong with wanting someone attractive or finacially well off. However, as a woman, I've seen so many cases where men are just completely unrealistic about real women their bodies and their expectations. It's not just about these features anymore. There is a huge part of expectations women are suppose to fit into that are completely unrealistic.  Which I think largely has to do with the male media men entrench themselves in as far as images of Maxim or porn. Even the women in those magazines don't look liek that and yet average joes think that's what women's bodies should be.  I post on another message board. There was a young woman of 20 that just broke up with her boyfriend because he kept asking her to get implants. By her accounts, she has saggy breasts and he told her so and was not happy. So many of the men came on that thread and were really quite nasty towards her telling her she shouldn't have saggy breasts at 20.  It was very telling that these men had no concept of what a real woman's body is.  Most breasts sag because breasts are just fat, not silcone. You're breasts can sag at 18 or 19. Personally, I've heard the "we are animals and this is nature" argument too many times for it to have any real sway anymore. Often, I think this gets used as a justifcation for unreal expectations more then it does as an explanation of the real *nature* of men or women. There is nothing wrong with wanting someone attractive or finacially well off. However, as a woman, I’ve seen so many cases where men are just completely unrealistic about real women their bodies and their expectations. It’s not just about these features anymore. There is a huge part of expectations women are suppose to fit into that are completely unrealistic.  Which I think largely has to do with the male media men entrench themselves in as far as images of Maxim or porn. Even the women in those magazines don’t look liek that and yet average joes think that’s what women’s bodies should be.

 I post on another message board. There was a young woman of 20 that just broke up with her boyfriend because he kept asking her to get implants. By her accounts, she has saggy breasts and he told her so and was not happy. So many of the men came on that thread and were really quite nasty towards her telling her she shouldn’t have saggy breasts at 20.  It was very telling that these men had no concept of what a real woman’s body is.  Most breasts sag because breasts are just fat, not silcone. You’re breasts can sag at 18 or 19.

Personally, I’ve heard the “we are animals and this is nature” argument too many times for it to have any real sway anymore. Often, I think this gets used as a justifcation for unreal expectations more then it does as an explanation of the real *nature* of men or women.

]]> By: Barry http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-54044 Barry Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:54:11 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-54044 I think this article overlooks the true reason for the apparent shallowness of the male of the species: it's to our evolutionary advantage to behave exactly this way. There have been many attempts at empirical studies to determine what physical qualities define female beauty, and the overall concensus is that many of these very same qualities...symmetry, youth, ample gender-specific attributes...are all indicators of a genetically healthy partner of ideal breeding age. Not romantic, I know, but good for the species as a whole. That doesn't make us less shallow for pursuing these qualities. A good part of moral character demands that we all rise above our baser instincts. But those instincts are not inherently evil. They are simply geared towards survival. And they're pretty strong. So, you are correct: the male interest in the "hot chick" is not going away any time soon. Neither is the status seeking female, who instinctively wants to assure a safe and bountiful nest for her offspring. I think the best we can do is learn to accept these qualities in eachother, while trying to remember that part of what makes us human is our ability to ignore our animal instincts when it may serve a greater good.   I think this article overlooks the true reason for the apparent shallowness of the male of the species: it’s to our evolutionary advantage to behave exactly this way. There have been many attempts at empirical studies to determine what physical qualities define female beauty, and the overall concensus is that many of these very same qualities…symmetry, youth, ample gender-specific attributes…are all indicators of a genetically healthy partner of ideal breeding age. Not romantic, I know, but good for the species as a whole.
That doesn’t make us less shallow for pursuing these qualities. A good part of moral character demands that we all rise above our baser instincts. But those instincts are not inherently evil. They are simply geared towards survival. And they’re pretty strong.
So, you are correct: the male interest in the “hot chick” is not going away any time soon. Neither is the status seeking female, who instinctively wants to assure a safe and bountiful nest for her offspring. I think the best we can do is learn to accept these qualities in eachother, while trying to remember that part of what makes us human is our ability to ignore our animal instincts when it may serve a greater good.
 

]]> By: JerseyGirl http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-53888 JerseyGirl Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:47:05 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-53888 I don't get ignored and I am quite petite. Infact, more tall men than short ones hit on me. Now if you don't liek petite women, I can understand that Michael and that's cool. But to say most men would ignore petite women sounds strange and is untrue. I don’t get ignored and I am quite petite. Infact, more tall men than short ones hit on me. Now if you don’t liek petite women, I can understand that Michael and that’s cool. But to say most men would ignore petite women sounds strange and is untrue.

]]> By: Michael http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-53876 Michael Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:58:48 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-53876 <i>Really? Six foot-plus men prefer petite women?….hhhmmmhhh. I have noticed, that petite women try harder/make themselves available/use obvious body language, to get a mans attention….</i> I can not disagree with this. Most men would ignore petite women. Really? Six foot-plus men prefer petite women?….hhhmmmhhh. I have noticed, that petite women try harder/make themselves available/use obvious body language, to get a mans attention….
I can not disagree with this.

Most men would ignore petite women.

]]> By: Sayanta http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-53847 Sayanta Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:09:01 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-53847 <em>According to him, I don't immediately, a) give men dirty looks... </em>THAT's what I'm doing wrong! According to him, I don’t immediately, a) give men dirty looks…

THAT’s what I’m doing wrong!

]]> By: John http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-53844 John Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:37:44 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-53844 Plain and simple. If you're an average so-so looking woman, and you give off signs that you're interested in having sex with the guy, chances are he'll want you. Plain and simple.
If you’re an average so-so looking woman, and you give off signs that you’re interested in having sex with the guy, chances are he’ll want you.

]]> By: hunter http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/comment-page-3/#comment-49349 hunter Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:01:51 +0000 http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/if-men-like-hot-women-where-does-that-leave-an-average-woman/#comment-49349 Amy, you lucky soul.  Amy, you lucky soul. 

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