My Boyfriend Wants Me to Have Surgeries So I’ll Look Like a Porn Star

My Boyfriend Wants Me to Have Surgeries So I’ll Look Like a Porn Star

I have been reading and following your advice religiously for a year and a half. You have truly been a godsend and I thank you profusely. You have changed my life! My question is this: I have been in a year and a half relationship with a great guy. Sweet, caring, successful man who’s wonderful with my children. The list goes on. Two things have come to the surface. He likes to watch porn and that has been hard for me because my ex-husband was an extreme porn addict!! But I’m trying to understand his needs and not judge based on the past. But now he is asking me to have my breasts enlarged to an excessive size and labiaplasty. I already have size D implants and I had my children by C-section so everything is intact below. I’m 5’9″, 127 pounds and very fit. I work out 5 days a week. I’m 46, blonde and believe it or not I am carded often. I love him just as he is! Very handsome, but he doesn’t need to look like a porn star to make me happy. I feel he is trying to make me look like these women and it’s starting to hurt my self-esteem – which is pretty high in a healthy way. I am a realist. I look really good and am so blessed with the genes I have, but I understand looks can’t last…no matter how much plastic surgery I have. Your thoughts??? My head and heart all mixed up and hurting. Thank you.

Lisa

After my penis reduction (I took 4” off because of the discomfort I caused other partners), I swore I wouldn’t talk about plastic surgery on this blog.

Too personal. Too sensitive. Too icky.

But I couldn’t resist answering your question, because it’s hard to believe it’s even a question.

You describe yourself as very attractive. I’m in no position to argue.

You describe your boyfriend as a great guy. I’m in no position to argue.

This is a completely unacceptable request on his part – a request that should be met by indignation, not confusion.

You describe the type of surgery your boyfriend wants you to have to remain physically appealing to him. I am now in a position to argue.

I do believe that attraction is important.

I don’t believe that porn is the root of all evil.

I do believe that compromise is necessary for any relationship.

At the same time, your boyfriend’s request – asking you to compromise your integrity, looks and health so that he can feel more attracted to you, the way he’s attracted to porn stars – is so objectively wrong and distasteful, I am surprised you saw fit to run it by me first. The only letter I’ve ever received that is comparable is this one about a woman who dated a personal trainer who told her to keep her shirt on during sex.

Find another guy who loves you for who you are – inside and out – and you can later look back on this creepy chapter of your life with a laugh.

And my answer to you is the same as my answer to her:

This is a completely unacceptable request on his part – a request that should be met by indignation, not confusion.

You may have loved your boyfriend for the past year and a half, but his tastes and proclivities do not make this third party observer feel safe that he’s a good husband candidate.

Find another guy who loves you for who you are – inside and out – and you can later look back on this creepy chapter of your life with a laugh.

Sort of like my penis reduction. Is that even a thing?

(Hmm…Evidently, it is.)

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  1. 1
    Sophia

    “His needs” are extreme- it’s not like he’s asking the OP to wear sexy lingerie , he’s requesting surgery!!!  It’s likely he’ll have another unreasonable request at some point in the future.

    Also, If the OP were to accommodate his request, what kind of message would that send to the kids? I’m flabbergasted..

    OP: RUN and don’t look back!

    1. 1.1
      JustAGuy

      What Sophia said.

      Run! Get this guy out of your life and away from your kids.

  2. 2
    Holly

    Unfortunately, given the ubiquity of porn in this society today, I’m afraid this kind of thing will only become more common. As men continue to use porn, effectively rewiring their brains to become aroused more by porn performers than by the women they have right in front of them, they’re not just hurting the women in their lives, but they’re hurting themselves.

    1. 2.1
      Ben Iyyar

      Holly, you are unfortunately correct about how excessive porn use diminishes men, and diminishes our relationships with women as well. All I can hope is that more men grow up, and that at some point the excessive use of porn by too many men will become boring, so much so that they will want to connect in an intimate way with a real flesh and blood woman!

  3. 3
    Karmic Equation

    How many times do I have to say it?

    Love isn’t enough. In this case it seems the OP “loves” her bf more than he loves her. And she’s so into what SHE feels for him she’s buried her head in the sand about what HE feels for her.

    She may well love him. But he certainly does not love her. Or if he does, he’s an immature, shallow, idiot, one she is better off without.

    She says she has self-esteem. But her being “confused” instead of offended by his request hints at low self-esteem.

  4. 4
    JBL

    Holy crap! Run, don’t walk! A ridiculous request and one that won’t make YOU happy! Time to dump this chump!

  5. 5
    robin

    Can you say Charlie Sheen !!!!

    Gezzzzz

    What an insensitive  jerk!!!!

  6. 6
    Ben Iyyar

    As a Registered Nurse with thirty years of experience, I would advise you NOT to have any surgery that is not essential for YOUR physical and emotional well being, do not do this for  HIM! The addiction to porn you mention is more than the juvenile behavior most men sometimes engage in, it seems to define his life and his relationship with you. Indeed,this demand that you change your appearance is no more than another form of masturbation, except instead of a computer screen or a girley magazine, YOU will be in the same room, serving the same function as the porn site or the nudie! I imagine that you would prefer real intimacy with your partner than a masturbation fantasy.

  7. 7
    wp

    *elephant in the room…penis reduction? 4 inches? I applaud your courage!

    1. 7.2
      BLINGBLANGCHANG

      I didnt know that it was a joke either so dont feel bad lol Evan, you have to put “j/k” or “( heavy sarcasm)” so that we know for sure lol

  8. 8
    LC2

    I think I dated this man.  Run Run!!  Love yourself enough to not have to sacrifice your self worth for his admiration.  He is a selfish narcissistic man and if you do this for him his requests will continue and do you want to be his toy?  It is a form of control/manipulation.  My ex BF had NPD but I didn’t realize it until I was madly in love with him and he was the most wonderful, giving, fun man who adored me and my children………………in the idealization phase.  That phase eventually leads into the devaluing stage where you aren’t quite good enough and if only you would do this…or that for him to prove your love.  But they need your love so badly that the phases will keep repeating until you get off the roller coaster ride. or they find better supply (attention/love) and discard you.

    Idealize, devalue, discard.  Rinse and repeat..

     

     

  9. 9
    Marie

    Ugh the fact that you are even confused about this request and haven’t run for your life suggests that you have quite low self esteem rather than the high self esteem you think you have. No self respecting man or woman would seriously entertain staying with someone like this and no person would ask it of a partner they genuinely care for and respect!

  10. 10
    Chester

    Evan your position on porn is hard to argue against, because you say it is not the root of all evil. Of course it is not the root of all evil. But I do think it is bad for most if not all relationships, and bad for the men and women who use porn. Just look at this guy, and the impact porn is having on his partner, his relationship and his expectations. For some reason our enlightened culture desperately wants to believe there is nothing wrong with porn, but in the real world we see porn ruins people and relationships, just like this. As the rule far more than the exception.

    1. 10.1
      Evan Marc Katz

      Cory, the easiest analogy is alcohol. It’s a drug. It’s bad for you. But it’s not illegal and the vast majority of people use it in moderation without incident.

      So, you can say porn ruins people and relationships, and that’s true. The same way alcohol does for families of alcoholics. So do you think we should bring back prohibition? Or do you think we should just continue to caution and educate on the value of using it in moderation?

      I know where I’ve got my money. Porn doesn’t ruin couples as a rule. It happens, like alcoholism happens, but it’s not the majority.

      1. 10.1.1
        Louise

        But Evan nobody’s hurt or degraded in the alcohol making process!

        1. Karmic Equation

          Nope. But AFTER consumption,

          – drunk drivers kill people

          – men commit felonies from rape to murder

          Porn just make some men want unrealistic things from their women.

          Just like soap operas, chick flicks, and Disney movies make women want unrealistic things from men.

          Let’s ban soap operas, chick flicks, and Disney movies, while we’re out and about banning porn.

          If you’re ever watched porn, some, if not all, of the women in them seem to be enjoying what they’re doing. That may all be an act, however, but from what I could see, most of them are really awful actresses when they have speaking lines, but pretty good actresses when don’t have to say a word.

          Those women are in it for the money. Don’t make them out to be victims when they’re not.

          You’re better off joining MADD or SADD if you want to have a cause to stand behind.

        2. Louise

          Please dear KE I beg of you not to serve me the argument of “they seem to enjoy it ” because that’s about the most childish assumption one could make in defense of porn. Are you a woman??! Aren’t you able to relate, empathize (and I’m not saying projecting! That isn’t what I am doing) to what it must feel like? Are prostitutes also there because they enjoy it?! Come the f*** on. You can debate with me whether or not porn is hurting men’s ability to experience intimacy (which, yes, I think it is, and I will claim it loud and clear until my dying day) but you can not tell me that the actresses enjoy what they are doing. BULLSHIT

        3. Karmic Equation

          Have you ever watched any porn?

          I’m sure that there are many variations of porn, of which one segment could be degrading (S&M, golden showers, etc)

          But if you’ve actually watched porn, you can’t unilaterally say that the women didn’t enjoy it.

          There’s amateur out there as well. Those women don’t get paid for it and they make it with their webcams.

          Please tell me how they’re being exploited?

          If you ask me, some of those amateur porn women are not at all attractive, but act like they’re “the thang”.

          Lighten up. I did debate you. You’re the one resorting to ad hominem attacks and red herrings instead of responding to the fact that alcoholism KILLS while porn only destroys intimacy. No one dies.

        4. Julie

          Louise, I am wondering if you actually said your comment out loud before you posted it?  Do you know anyone that is an alcoholic?  Do you know anyone that has a family with an alcoholic in it?  Nobody’s hurt, nobody is degraded???

          Wow.  It’s hard to know what to say to that one.

          Drunk drivers not only kill people, but drunks put the people in their lives through hell and back with their addiction.

          There are ALWAYS choices in life, it’s just sometimes the choices all suck.  The people making these movies, nobody is twisting their arm too.  I don’t know where the money is coming from each month, but i am not out there selling my body to get some.

          I’d take porn over alcoholism any day, and i was a virgin till i got married.

        5. AllHeart81

          I’d just like to say that just because something is considered ‘amateur’, it doesn’t mean it really is and secondly, there is no way to vet if both people in the video even actually consented to the video or picture being put online when it comes to ‘amateur’ porn. This is actually a huge problem in our culture  and men largely are guilty of exposing ex-girlfriends or women in general sexually when there was no consent given.

          Secondly, just because you agree to something, does not infact mean you are not being exploited or objectified. The majority of women who do porn are mostly young and inexperienced and unaware of the realities of the business. Most don’t spend more then 6 months in the industry, girls are heavily recycled through for new meat.

          It’s just not realistic to not admit that pornography has not deeply shaped a lot of men out there (and growing amount of women.) Unfortunately, if more porn was actually equal, in terms of trying to appeal to both men and women of all ages and body types, that would be one thing. If it expressed more nuances to sexuality (it truly doesn’t), things would be different. But as it stand, the majority of porn is created for men. Which completely excludes women from having sexual agency outside of women being shown pleasing men. When both men and women feed off media that is about only pleasing one gender, in something that should be about both genders, this is not a healthy environment.

           

           

  11. 11
    Morgan Hill

    The OP already had size D implants. She had her children by C-section so everything is intact below. She is 46, blonde and wanted us to believe that she is carded often.

     

    Wouldn’t it be even better to get even bigger boobs and an even more intact vagina?  Go for it!!

    Bimbo is as bimbo does.

     

    1. 11.1
      Julie

      Morgan, I don’t know if i feel more sorry for Lisa for the sad place she is stuck and torn in right now within herself, or for people like you that make unfair judgements on others.  Everybody has reasons for the things they do or don’t do.  Not everybody has found their way in life yet, or strong enough to realize what the right thing to do is.  Just because she may be beautiful with a big chest, and a little lost right now, doesn’t make her a bimbo.  Just as i don’t think you would like to be labeled as ignorant for making such a mean comment/judgement about someone you don’t even know.

      1. 11.1.1
        Morgan Hill

        Sanctimonious concern troll.  

        1. Julie

          Morgan, you only go to prove my point even more so.

          Thank you 🙂

      2. 11.1.2
        Dragonfire

        Bravo Julie 🙂

    2. 11.2
      Chaka

      Your comment just jarred me into remembering the part about where since she had a c-section, “everything is intact below.”  W-w-w-ait……………..excuse me?  Since when does  a vaginal childbirth typically alter the “down below” in any way shape or form.  It doesn’t.

      Never mind that the OP needed to leave this moron yesterday, what she also needs to do is to learn that a vaginal childbirth doesn’t (noticeably) change the vagina or vulva; that a c-section does not leave your more vulva more attractive than if you’d given birth vaginally; and that a labiaplasty reshapes the LABIA, which has nothing to do with the birth canal!  He is undoubtedly requesting a labiaplasty (which have become quite common) because your labia/vulva is just not visually appealing to him — or it’s not shaped like the porn stars.  Do an Internet search for before and after photos of labiaplasty and you will see what he may be hoping for.  What a jerk.

    3. 11.3
      Leigh

      My flag goes up whenever a woman describes herself as overly sexy (ex. blonde, young, slim, giant breasts). She’s fishing, even if it’s subconscious.

      If you have to announce to randoms that you are sexy, it means you are reassuring yourself. Which probably means her confidence is low, even if she is objectively attractive. The OP is chipping away at her self esteem, implying she can be more attractive by looking more like a porn star.

      I’m a b**ch, but I’d come home and tell him proudly, “Honey, I know you wanted me to be more like a porn star, so I blew three college guys on the subway. You should have seen the size of their…!”

      But seriously, if this was a man, and his lady suggested he take steroids and get a penis extension to look more like the men at Chippendale’s, I think we’d all tell him to run. It’s juvenile and insulting.

  12. 12
    JK

    This girl’s self esteem is such that she’s emailing Evan to get an answer as to whether or not to get absurd breast enlargements and vaginal tightening? She really needs a psychologist /psychiatrist to help her with the troubling self doubt, low self esteem, and and questioning of her morals and values. Yes, she needs to dump that guy & run (run fast!!!) but it may take a professional to help her realize she’s worth more than her Barbie looks.

  13. 13
    Noemi

    This man is probably addicted to porn, and now he wants to somehow turn this woman into his dirty little porn star in order to replicate what he sees in porn videos? Is he afraid he is no longer turned on by the typical woman without humongous breasts and a perfect little labia? While it is wonderful of the OP to understand that a man may want his needs met through the occasional use of porn, it seems that he now desires to act this stuff out in real life, which includes altering her body to unrealistic standards. OP, he is comparing you to porn stars and wants to “fix” you so you can look like them.

  14. 14
    Leigh

    I’ve been in this woman’s position. It is becoming more common, as men condition themselves to the enhanced bodies/theatrics of porn as their primary sexual outlet.

    Porn is just a new form prostitution. It has been legitimized by the industry who wants to profit, but no woman wants to compete with prostitutes in her marriage.

    And Evan, as much as I respect your views on most topics (sincerely), I think you do not fully understand the effect porn has on women’s sexual desire. Many of us are not as into porn as men, and do not get aroused by male visuals. We get much of our excitement from being desired, which is why most women would rather give a lap dance than receive one. Most women are more excited by making porn than viewing it. Ask your wife (or any woman) which scenario is more exciting — sending her own nude pic to a hot guy and getting a great reaction, or receiving a nude pic from the same guy. Universally, women will prefer the first. This is why several woman have told you male porn watching = female porn making (not watching).

    When a man is watching porn, he is taking this sexual energy away from his wife (which is the main source of her sexual pleasure), and gifting it instead to prostitutes.

    It has been proven that porn watching lowers a man’s desire for his partner, due to the Coolidge effect (new partners are always more exciting than old), and the contrast effect (we compare available mates, and airbrushed/beautified will always win).

    All woman are capable of being prostitutes, but most of us choose not to. We’d rather have exclusive (prostitute-free) relationships. Porn takes away this choice, forcing us into an unwanted open relationship, where a man has unalienable right to other women, even when it significantly lowers the sexual experience for HER, and women are shamed if we dare question it.

    I have always leaned monogamous, but my partner’s chronic porn use made me consider things like cheating and sex work and opening the marriage, in order to get some of the same novelty edge that porn has. This is very common in women, and could partially explain the explosion of female cheating since the 90s. One way to compete with porn is to never stay with one man long enough to allow him to habituate.

    Porn is the ultimate form of female sex shaming and repression.

    1. 14.1
      Karmic Equation

      Leigh,

      I think you and other women who blame porn for the destruction of your relationship are missing the point.

      It’s not the porn that’s the problem, it’s the GUY YOU WERE WITH.

      It’s a whole lot easier to blame porn than it is to accept that the guy you were with was a flawed human being who couldn’t (or wouldn’t) separate his fantasies from his reality.

      My guy watches porn. My previous two boyfriends before him watched porn. Evan watches porn. I’ve overheard my male friends talking about porn. But NONE of them would choose porn over a live woman in their beds. Even if she was not as pretty. Even if she was not as vocal. NORMAL men can separate reality from porn, and not expect their women to act or look like porn actresses.

      Just face the fact you chose a guy who wasn’t normal.

      It wasn’t porn. It wasn’t you. It was HIM.

      Alcohol sitting on a shelf is not harmful. How much a person consumes of it and if that person can stop once they start is on that person. It’s not the alcohol’s fault that they got drunk. Same thing with cars and guns. Don’t blame the equipment. Blame the operator.

      Why is that most people, especially women, can make this distinction when it doesn’t involve sex? Once sex is involved in the discussion in anyway, most women lose all perspective. I don’t get it.

      1. 14.1.1
        Leigh

        I really hope you are correct, but every stat I have read says otherwise. I think you don’t understand how porn affects men. FYI, I used to be pro-porn. My experience. If porn is not a problem in your relationship now, it eventually will be as the relationship matures and you are no longer novel.

        You cannot compete with an endless stream of free prostitutes, and YES, it does make him less into you. Porn has novelty you cannot maintain, which is why guys like it so much.

        If I sent your man a link to my porn, I bet he’d follow that link, and I bet it will excite him more than you (even if you are more attractive). Novelty and variety always win, and that’s what prostitution and porn capitalize on.

        Is that the kind of sex life you want?

        Alcohol sitting on a shelf is not harmful, sure. But we don’t pump free booze through everyone’s kitchen tap, and encourage children to start drinking at age 11. We don’t glorify drinking culture. Booze is not seen as a human right, something no one can question. If a person comes in complaining of an alcoholic partner, we don’t suggest he take up heavy drinking himself, find alcohol he likes, or lecture him on how harmless alcohol is for most people. If your partner makes drinking alcohol  a total non-negotiable in the relationship, I’d say he has a problem, even if he’s only a light drinker.

        When porn is a non-negotiable, prostitutes have more power and value than wives/gfs. Truth, if your guy will not give up porn, he’s more into his prostitutes than you. Sorry.

        Kinda makes men unappealing as relationship material.

        1. Kyra

          I agree with all of this (except calling porn actors prostitutes). The careers are entirely different, though money is exchanged hands.

          I am pro porn, but I’ve also done extenive reading into how pornography affects the brain and one’s ability to connect to individuals romantically and sexually. If a person — who does not suffer from alcoholism or have alcoholism in their family — takes a drink of alcohol their behavior, thoughts, meed, body chemistry is affected immediately. Pornography affects a person the same way. So, regardless of an individual has a propensity to be or become addicted to it, pornography is and has shaped their mindset, attraction, sexual choices, proclivities and even their aggression levels in every day life in some way. Individuals prone to addiction or Avoidant behavior can certainly become addicted and affected to porn in detrimental ways.

          There’s an Anti porn masterpost on Tumblr that has some really insightful statistics into pornographys affect on the body and mind. And, antiporn.org has more resources and stats.

        2. Dragonfire

          Leigh, according to my personal life experience with my husband of 20 years and the statistics I’ve read about men and porn, you are spot on!!!  When a man views porn, his brain actually thinks he is with a new woman and he produces the chemicals in his brain that are the same as the novelty of having sex when a sexual relationship is new and exciting.  My husband was faithful to me and indulged in porn for 15 years of our marriage.  Then he became bored of me and went to Backpage and wanted to make his porn fantasies real and begin hiring prostitutes from Backpage.  I knew something was off right away and I gave him ample opportunities to be honest.  He held me a prisoner in our marriage by creating a false intimacy with me and pretending to be a good husband and father.  He was final caught be the police when he solicited a 16 year old.  Porn fueled a sex addiction in him and that addiction lead him to jail and the demise of his marriage and family.  I can tell how a man treats me in bed if he is a chronic porn user.  I will not accept his energy or behavior.  He will be dumped faster than his head can spin.  I teach my tween son how to treat females and I tell him how porn portrays females.  He knows how to treat girls and how to a conscious consumer when it comes to advertising and porn.   I hope he will also have better intimacy in the bedroom if he learns to treat his partner with respect and appreciate her as an individual human being, instead of an object of a fantasy.

    2. 14.2
      ScottH

      The unsolicited opinion of one guy who’s been watching porn for over 30 years- I find the “enhanced” bodies of porn starts to be a massive turnoff.  I much prefer the amateurs, not so much into freaky stuff or obese people.  But I would much prefer my gf or significant other to whom I’m attached than to beat off to porn (and I’ll use porn sometimes too but certainly not instead of my real life partner).

  15. 15
    Nissa

     
    I think an important concept has been missed. As in, what does the OP want for herself? I don’t think her question (Should I get this surgery, yes or no?) can be answered unless she knows what SHE wants. It’s not evident, since she clearly chose surgery for herself previously.
     
    From her letter, I don’t think she has asked herself this question. I’d guess that she does not want to have the surgery, since if she agreed, she would just do it and would have no need to send Evan a letter. Therefore, it seems her conflict is that she feels pressure to do what her boyfriend wants instead of what she wants. BUT – her letter does not say anywhere that he is putting any untoward pressure on her, only that he asked. Would any of us want to be in a relationship, where we were not allowed to ask for what we wanted? I think not.
     
    In a good relationship, either partner has the freedom to ask for what they want. The responding partner has the freedom to say yes or no, without fear of reprisal. Relationships where the wants and needs of each are honored, also inspire us to be truthful about our wants, and inspire us to give as much as we are able to give without resenting.
     
    I’d suggest the OP tell her boyfriend it’s not what she wants, then drop it. If he chooses to be disrespectful of her choice or to leave her, she’s better off without him anyway. And just maybe, he’ll shrug, say “darn” and never bring it up again.
     

  16. 16
    popee

    Yeah I had an online sexting thing with someone once … he “liked me” bcs I have big boobs and when I asked why he broke up with his last long-term gf he said that she “refused to get implants” and that the “shape of her boobs wasn’t that nice”. Yeah bcs if you have ANY relationship that is based on a body part, it is not a relationship, it is an objectifying transaction/fetish.

    The OP can do better, #justsayin’. Some men just aren’t able to form true long-term connections with women and if you are looking for a serious relationship down the line, this is not the way to go.

  17. 17
    Marielv

    I lived in the Miami area for years so nothing really shocks me these days.  That said,  Lisa should have run screaming from this man.  He is a class A narcissist and probably has an additional personality disorder or two.

    OP sounds “smoking hot” as it is.  I cannot imagine how some man thinks that an intelligent, hot, strong and independent mother would acquiesce to such a self-centered request.

    To add,  large implants do present health concerns and Lisa would be placing herself at risk of problems, including back issues which would be aggravated by her healthy workout schedule.

    I’ve reached the point at which I am nearly 40 and happy with my body after many years of self-consciousness.  I used to border on eating disordered behavior at times.  I’m a size 6 – 8 , my chest is nearly flat, my legs are toned and strong, and my bottom is a little bit more Kardashian-esque than I’d prefer,  but I’m very fit and my slightly bottom heavy physique is actually beneficial to my chosen sport (anyone want to hazard a guess?).

    I also dated a narcissist for several years.  He had suggested I have dental work done and commented on “how I had a six pack when we met”, and how I should get gel manicures like other ladies he knew.  Well, news flash, I take good care of myself, and have a neat, sporty manicure.   This is the gal he met and ostensibly “fell in love with”, only to gradually alienate by criticism and judgment.  Now, I am happily implementing each of Evan’s recommendations and will toss a guy to the curb if he exhibits this behavior.

  18. 18
    Sabrina

    The OP needs to kick that guy to the curb. He’s sick in the head!

  19. 19
    DT

    Why dont u just do what is beautiful in your own eyes.  Some girls wish their chest was bigger.  If u can agree with your husband about tour body then do it for and with him.  If you think its ugly, dont.

    Forget all these naysayers talking about respect.  That is the popular thought but in reality your own thoughts on beauty is the key ingredient.

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