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		<title>By: Angi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so glad that I found this page. I have just went through EXACTLY the same thing. My boyfriend and I were together for 3 years and we got engaged, that was 4 years ago. I wanted him to set a date and wanted to start organising my dream wedding that my parentsa saved up for ever since I was a little girl. I asked him, shouldn&#039;t we visit the minister, start planning, after all it was our special day. He wouldn&#039;t commit, at 39 he was still living with his mum and I was at my parents, I am 28 and we had saved up the deposit for a house too, 3/4 of the money was mine and 1/4 his but all I could think about was that it was OUR money. I started looking for houses and then he started to get cold feet, he said that I was looking at expensive houses but I had done the sums and the houses were reasonably priced then came another surprise, he didn&#039;t want children. In our 7 years together, he did want kids and I didn&#039;t but then I changed my mind, playing with relatives children and baby-sitting for them and he wasa the man that I wanted to have kids with. So, I asked him how he felt about me, he said that he loved me. Then I said that I was willing to put all my money and time into a future with him. Yet another surprise, he said that he wanted to be able to go where he wanted and do what he wanted, but didn&#039;t know where he wanted to go or what he wanted to do. This was a month ago and I think, such a waste, I still love him and according to him, he loves me. He walked away without a fight, that has gotta tell me something. I always thought we could work out anything, cause we weren&#039;t just good together, we were amazing together. But its funny what you get when you start to plan for the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so glad that I found this page. I have just went through EXACTLY the same thing. My boyfriend and I were together for 3 years and we got engaged, that was 4 years ago. I wanted him to set a date and wanted to start organising my dream wedding that my parentsa saved up for ever since I was a little girl. I asked him, shouldn&#8217;t we visit the minister, start planning, after all it was our special day. He wouldn&#8217;t commit, at 39 he was still living with his mum and I was at my parents, I am 28 and we had saved up the deposit for a house too, 3/4 of the money was mine and 1/4 his but all I could think about was that it was OUR money. I started looking for houses and then he started to get cold feet, he said that I was looking at expensive houses but I had done the sums and the houses were reasonably priced then came another surprise, he didn&#8217;t want children. In our 7 years together, he did want kids and I didn&#8217;t but then I changed my mind, playing with relatives children and baby-sitting for them and he wasa the man that I wanted to have kids with. So, I asked him how he felt about me, he said that he loved me. Then I said that I was willing to put all my money and time into a future with him. Yet another surprise, he said that he wanted to be able to go where he wanted and do what he wanted, but didn&#8217;t know where he wanted to go or what he wanted to do. This was a month ago and I think, such a waste, I still love him and according to him, he loves me. He walked away without a fight, that has gotta tell me something. I always thought we could work out anything, cause we weren&#8217;t just good together, we were amazing together. But its funny what you get when you start to plan for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: M Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>M Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I gotta say I can&#039;t believe the number of women I know that have been sitting and waiting patiently for their men to propose for years...even decades...why??  My husband and I met when we were in college, we started dating when I was 21 (he was 22), six months later we were engaged, and six months later we were married.  We&#039;ve been married two years now and it gets even better every single day that I&#039;m with him.  The same was true with my sister - she and her husband were the same age as me and my husband when they started dating, and they only dated six months and were engaged for three.  They&#039;ve been married five years and couldn&#039;t possibly be happier.  

My husband and I absolutely could not wait to marry each other - and we were FLAT broke.  We had to put my ring on a credit card and pay it off slowly, we had just graduated college and neither one of us had a full-time job yet.  Did it matter?  No!  We were crazy about each other and couldn&#039;t wait to get married.  The monetary excuses to me are the lamest - you&#039;ll be paying bills separately and you&#039;ll be paying bills together.  Have a modest wedding and money isn&#039;t an issue.  But there is absolutely NO circumstance where it would take longer than 2 years to decide whether someone is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.  And, by that point you should certainly both know what your priorities in life are - whether they include marraige or not.  If one of you values marriage and having children and the other doesn&#039;t, no sense in staying together. 

Last but not least - women need to stop moving in with men before they get married.  All of this garbage about needing to live with someone before you get married to see if it works - that just makes me laugh.  People who say that can&#039;t be serious.  Marriage is about compramise and fulfilling the other person&#039;s needs - if both of you have that as the focus, you don&#039;t need to &quot;try it out&quot; first - you&#039;ll be fine.  When women move in with the men they&#039;re dating, the men will never commit because they&#039;re getting all of the benefits of marriage with none of the pesky commitment.  I&#039;m sure there are exceptions to the rule, but that&#039;s definitely the rule. 

Good luck, and I hope you find the strength to make a clean break and move on to someone who can&#039;t wait to marry you, just like my husband couldn&#039;t, because you deserve it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I gotta say I can&#8217;t believe the number of women I know that have been sitting and waiting patiently for their men to propose for years&#8230;even decades&#8230;why??  My husband and I met when we were in college, we started dating when I was 21 (he was 22), six months later we were engaged, and six months later we were married.  We&#8217;ve been married two years now and it gets even better every single day that I&#8217;m with him.  The same was true with my sister &#8211; she and her husband were the same age as me and my husband when they started dating, and they only dated six months and were engaged for three.  They&#8217;ve been married five years and couldn&#8217;t possibly be happier.  </p>
<p>My husband and I absolutely could not wait to marry each other &#8211; and we were FLAT broke.  We had to put my ring on a credit card and pay it off slowly, we had just graduated college and neither one of us had a full-time job yet.  Did it matter?  No!  We were crazy about each other and couldn&#8217;t wait to get married.  The monetary excuses to me are the lamest &#8211; you&#8217;ll be paying bills separately and you&#8217;ll be paying bills together.  Have a modest wedding and money isn&#8217;t an issue.  But there is absolutely NO circumstance where it would take longer than 2 years to decide whether someone is the person you want to spend the rest of your life with.  And, by that point you should certainly both know what your priorities in life are &#8211; whether they include marraige or not.  If one of you values marriage and having children and the other doesn&#8217;t, no sense in staying together. </p>
<p>Last but not least &#8211; women need to stop moving in with men before they get married.  All of this garbage about needing to live with someone before you get married to see if it works &#8211; that just makes me laugh.  People who say that can&#8217;t be serious.  Marriage is about compramise and fulfilling the other person&#8217;s needs &#8211; if both of you have that as the focus, you don&#8217;t need to &#8220;try it out&#8221; first &#8211; you&#8217;ll be fine.  When women move in with the men they&#8217;re dating, the men will never commit because they&#8217;re getting all of the benefits of marriage with none of the pesky commitment.  I&#8217;m sure there are exceptions to the rule, but that&#8217;s definitely the rule. </p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope you find the strength to make a clean break and move on to someone who can&#8217;t wait to marry you, just like my husband couldn&#8217;t, because you deserve it!</p>
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		<title>By: Rachael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrm.  As others have said, the only person who can decide whether this guy is worth waiting for is you.  And while all men are different, I suspect that ultimata don&#039;t work well on the vast majority of them.  And anyway, who wants to be with a man who is only with you because you threatened to walk away?

My own experience, though, is one that causes sisters and best friends everywhere to gnash their teeth and pull out their hair.  I dated my husband in graduate school for four and a half years.  He was the classic commitmentphobe (and to be fair, I had issues that needed dealing with - nothing&#039;s ever all one-sided).  We split up, but remained friends.  He had a two-plus year relationship with someone else; I moved back to California to do a postdoctoral fellowship.

A year and a half after we split up, he also relocated to California, less than an hour from me.  We did the occasional movie or baseball game, and when he and his now long-distance girlfriend split up, we began seeing one another more often. All this time I was dating other men, none seriously, but with the intention of finding a new partner.  But none could compare with the feelings I once had for him.  (I&#039;m aware I wasn&#039;t really giving any of them a fair chance, here.)  My sister and girlfriends thought I was insane.  The man had his chance, he blew it (hey, they love me, what else were they going to say?), move on.

To make a long story short (too late), after another year and a half of casual dating, we fell in love again, and two months after we decided we were serious, he asked me to marry him.  We got married in October.  Next month will be the 10th anniversary of our first date.  It was, in every way, worth the wait.

So...sometimes they just aren&#039;t ready.  And it doesn&#039;t mean anything but that.  They&#039;re not there yet.  But only you can decide if he&#039;s worth the wait.  And, well, whether you CAN wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrm.  As others have said, the only person who can decide whether this guy is worth waiting for is you.  And while all men are different, I suspect that ultimata don&#8217;t work well on the vast majority of them.  And anyway, who wants to be with a man who is only with you because you threatened to walk away?</p>
<p>My own experience, though, is one that causes sisters and best friends everywhere to gnash their teeth and pull out their hair.  I dated my husband in graduate school for four and a half years.  He was the classic commitmentphobe (and to be fair, I had issues that needed dealing with &#8211; nothing&#8217;s ever all one-sided).  We split up, but remained friends.  He had a two-plus year relationship with someone else; I moved back to California to do a postdoctoral fellowship.</p>
<p>A year and a half after we split up, he also relocated to California, less than an hour from me.  We did the occasional movie or baseball game, and when he and his now long-distance girlfriend split up, we began seeing one another more often. All this time I was dating other men, none seriously, but with the intention of finding a new partner.  But none could compare with the feelings I once had for him.  (I&#8217;m aware I wasn&#8217;t really giving any of them a fair chance, here.)  My sister and girlfriends thought I was insane.  The man had his chance, he blew it (hey, they love me, what else were they going to say?), move on.</p>
<p>To make a long story short (too late), after another year and a half of casual dating, we fell in love again, and two months after we decided we were serious, he asked me to marry him.  We got married in October.  Next month will be the 10th anniversary of our first date.  It was, in every way, worth the wait.</p>
<p>So&#8230;sometimes they just aren&#8217;t ready.  And it doesn&#8217;t mean anything but that.  They&#8217;re not there yet.  But only you can decide if he&#8217;s worth the wait.  And, well, whether you CAN wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evan, I just have to say: your sense of humor is hilarious! Just discovered your blog today and you get all the answers right!! ...As for the girl and her fiance - you can stay together without being married if you really love each other and want to be with each other, if you want different things you need to go each your own way. I think it&#039;s pretty simple. I know someone would say: &quot;but I invested 7 years into the relationship&quot; - that&#039;s how most Americans think, but so you also had fun and hopefully a fantastic time together. Life goes on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, I just have to say: your sense of humor is hilarious! Just discovered your blog today and you get all the answers right!! &#8230;As for the girl and her fiance &#8211; you can stay together without being married if you really love each other and want to be with each other, if you want different things you need to go each your own way. I think it&#8217;s pretty simple. I know someone would say: &#8220;but I invested 7 years into the relationship&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s how most Americans think, but so you also had fun and hopefully a fantastic time together. Life goes on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 05:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good elderly friend of mine, who was happily married for over 50 years before his wife passed away (they really loved each other, and also worked hard to compromise, trust and make it keep working as well) had a good friend named Chia (with a hard &quot;c&quot;). Chia dated a man named Al for 50 years - they took trips together, they lived next door (never together) and they too were truly very happy. When asked why she never married Al, Chia replied, &quot;I didn&#039;t know him well enough to marry him.&quot; So, I guess we will never know someone else completely, or even ourselves, but we keep striving to change, grow, and know as much as we can. And try to find someone else on a similar wavelength. If both people are happy, then it is jake if they want to date for a long time or forever (until one of them departs this earth as happened with Chia). But if it isn&#039;t truly working for both people, then definitely need to see why and what, if anything reasonable and feasible (for both parties) can be done about it. If the answer is nothing or not enough, then the one who isn&#039;t being fulfilled, has to be enough for themselves for now to walk away. I wish you the best and hope you get your wedding date - with your fiance, or in the future with another man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good elderly friend of mine, who was happily married for over 50 years before his wife passed away (they really loved each other, and also worked hard to compromise, trust and make it keep working as well) had a good friend named Chia (with a hard &#8220;c&#8221;). Chia dated a man named Al for 50 years &#8211; they took trips together, they lived next door (never together) and they too were truly very happy. When asked why she never married Al, Chia replied, &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know him well enough to marry him.&#8221; So, I guess we will never know someone else completely, or even ourselves, but we keep striving to change, grow, and know as much as we can. And try to find someone else on a similar wavelength. If both people are happy, then it is jake if they want to date for a long time or forever (until one of them departs this earth as happened with Chia). But if it isn&#8217;t truly working for both people, then definitely need to see why and what, if anything reasonable and feasible (for both parties) can be done about it. If the answer is nothing or not enough, then the one who isn&#8217;t being fulfilled, has to be enough for themselves for now to walk away. I wish you the best and hope you get your wedding date &#8211; with your fiance, or in the future with another man.</p>
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		<title>By: BeenThruTheWars</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeenThruTheWars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s amusing to see all the hair-splitting going on here about the details of Sheena&#039;s situation... or would be amusing if we weren&#039;t talking about a real human being&#039;s heart.

In this situation, if Sheena were my friend or sister, I would not be advising an &quot;ultimatum.&quot;  I would be advising a clean break and a fresh start.  This man has had 7 years to decide whether he wants to marry you.   He has decided to date you indefinitely and continue giving you excuses and putting you off, and you are allowing it.  The various remarks above about &quot;communication&quot; and &quot;giving the man the benefit of the doubt&quot; are off the mark, in my opinion.  First, the communication that is going on from this man is crystal clear.  He isn&#039;t marrying you, he won&#039;t even discuss setting a date.  Men communicate with their actions much more strongly than with their words.  You can patiently and sweetly ask him every day between now and Halloween of 2011, &quot;Honey, help me understand your hesitation, what&#039;s the problem, why don&#039;t you want to set a date and get married?&quot; and you will get lots of words and sputtering and building resentment from your man for &quot;pressuring&quot; him but you won&#039;t be any closer to getting happily married (key word, happily) to this fellow than you are now.  He is telling you with each passing day &quot;I like things just the way they are for right now.&quot;  The contract you have between you at this point is to keep the status quo.  That&#039;s what he&#039;s offering and by accepting it, you&#039;ve signed on to this maddening wait in a go-nowhere relationship.  Secondly, the remark about giving him the benefit of the doubt.  You give a man the benefit of the doubt for two years, maybe a couple months after that, and after that point you either read the handwriting on the wall or turn a blind eye and poof!  Five more years go by and you find yourself in the situation you&#039;re in.  Seven years?  That is some serious doormat territory, and remember, I bailed after my own seven-year go-nowhere disaster of a relationship.  I&#039;ve been there.  It won&#039;t get better.  

My cousin dated a woman for 25 YEARS.  They lived together for over 20 of those years.  Finally, they decided to get married.  Well -- she finally issued him an ultimatum.  After 25 years.  Guess what?  They got married... things deteriorated even further... and he filed for divorce.  Game over.  The only thing that salvaged that marriage was the reality check from his accountant telling him how much he stood to lose financially by divorcing her after their common law relationship of so many years.  They are still together... but happy?  No.

Another poster noted that no one on this site can make your decision for you; wiser words were never spoke.  I believe we all wish you the best and hope you will find happiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s amusing to see all the hair-splitting going on here about the details of Sheena&#8217;s situation&#8230; or would be amusing if we weren&#8217;t talking about a real human being&#8217;s heart.</p>
<p>In this situation, if Sheena were my friend or sister, I would not be advising an &#8220;ultimatum.&#8221;  I would be advising a clean break and a fresh start.  This man has had 7 years to decide whether he wants to marry you.   He has decided to date you indefinitely and continue giving you excuses and putting you off, and you are allowing it.  The various remarks above about &#8220;communication&#8221; and &#8220;giving the man the benefit of the doubt&#8221; are off the mark, in my opinion.  First, the communication that is going on from this man is crystal clear.  He isn&#8217;t marrying you, he won&#8217;t even discuss setting a date.  Men communicate with their actions much more strongly than with their words.  You can patiently and sweetly ask him every day between now and Halloween of 2011, &#8220;Honey, help me understand your hesitation, what&#8217;s the problem, why don&#8217;t you want to set a date and get married?&#8221; and you will get lots of words and sputtering and building resentment from your man for &#8220;pressuring&#8221; him but you won&#8217;t be any closer to getting happily married (key word, happily) to this fellow than you are now.  He is telling you with each passing day &#8220;I like things just the way they are for right now.&#8221;  The contract you have between you at this point is to keep the status quo.  That&#8217;s what he&#8217;s offering and by accepting it, you&#8217;ve signed on to this maddening wait in a go-nowhere relationship.  Secondly, the remark about giving him the benefit of the doubt.  You give a man the benefit of the doubt for two years, maybe a couple months after that, and after that point you either read the handwriting on the wall or turn a blind eye and poof!  Five more years go by and you find yourself in the situation you&#8217;re in.  Seven years?  That is some serious doormat territory, and remember, I bailed after my own seven-year go-nowhere disaster of a relationship.  I&#8217;ve been there.  It won&#8217;t get better.  </p>
<p>My cousin dated a woman for 25 YEARS.  They lived together for over 20 of those years.  Finally, they decided to get married.  Well &#8212; she finally issued him an ultimatum.  After 25 years.  Guess what?  They got married&#8230; things deteriorated even further&#8230; and he filed for divorce.  Game over.  The only thing that salvaged that marriage was the reality check from his accountant telling him how much he stood to lose financially by divorcing her after their common law relationship of so many years.  They are still together&#8230; but happy?  No.</p>
<p>Another poster noted that no one on this site can make your decision for you; wiser words were never spoke.  I believe we all wish you the best and hope you will find happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: nysharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>nysharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the BJ analogy but yet I never really got why woman won&#039;t. Anyway, this post brought me back. I am 50 looking back to age 27, when I spent 3 years with a guy who wouldn&#039;t commit and was completely narcissistic. I finally had enough and ended it. One month later his new girlfriend (who I later found out he met while we were together) and her infant child from another relationship moved in with him to the house I helped remodel and thought would be mine one day. One year later they were married. I was hurt then, but I ran into him over the summer and boy, am I glad I walked away then. Phew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the BJ analogy but yet I never really got why woman won&#8217;t. Anyway, this post brought me back. I am 50 looking back to age 27, when I spent 3 years with a guy who wouldn&#8217;t commit and was completely narcissistic. I finally had enough and ended it. One month later his new girlfriend (who I later found out he met while we were together) and her infant child from another relationship moved in with him to the house I helped remodel and thought would be mine one day. One year later they were married. I was hurt then, but I ran into him over the summer and boy, am I glad I walked away then. Phew.</p>
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		<title>By: done</title>
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		<dc:creator>done</dc:creator>
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		<description>all i want to say is i could not stop laughing when i read Evans comparison. f-ing hilarious!!! even though i wanted to be offended i simply couldnt. it was too f-ing funny!!! anyway, i think its sooo very cool that so many people have taken interest in sheenas problem. im going to be very open and tell sheena that i too have been in your situation. this valentines day would be 9 years for and my x fiance who i just it off with. we got engaged (finally) on june 9th, the whole nine yards , a beautiful emerald 1.5 carat engagement ring, down on the knee, my mom everyone there. and then sheena when we got engaged, this man becomes the worst part of himself. instead of saving for the wedding he suppossedly wants, he goes out and leases a lexus, moves out of his parents house finally at age 31 and at my request and rents a 2700 dollar a month 2 bedroom condo that he cant afford, and basically goes into &quot;self absorbed&quot; mode. i waited 9 freaken years for this shit? i finally was able to see him for who he was even after all the years of knowing he was a very materialisitic, self absorbed, immature, man, i just thought, he would grow up one day. but sheena, there will always be an &quot;excuse&quot; for why the time isnt right, certain decisions were made, and blah blah blah blah blah, honestly men do what they want to do. they&#039;re good at it. we should learn from them. we are always thinking of others and trying to be &quot;fair&quot; and &quot;sensitive&quot; to their needs. why? when certain men can be so selfish with us, our time, our needs? why do we allow that? many people have stated &quot;if he wanted to marry you he would&quot; i believe my fiance does &quot;want to &quot; marry me. do i believe he wants to marry me more than he wants to be  looked and feel like a &quot;rich and successful&quot; man instead of the immature indebt materialistic child that he is? NO. I DONT. Heloves me, Your fiance loves you. But theres something they both love more than us. THEMSELVES &amp; THEIR NEEDS. There is something they fear more than us leaving them... BEING CONTROLLED, AND BEING FAILURES. 

So face what you are looking at and make a decision for yourself. They are wonderful loving men full of excuses and issues. Do you want to wait around till they get it together? I will always love my ex for the time we spent together. But i decided to follow his example and PUT MY SELF AND MY NEEDS FIRST LIKE HE ALWAYS HAS. I dont regret spending the last 9 years waiting for the outcome of our relationship to show itself, i will only regret it if i waste anymore time waiting for the child in him to become a man. His issues are no longer my problem. If i would have married him, well obviously they would be. 

the hardest part is seeing things for what they are. its not us they love us. the best way they can. its a matter of how long we choose to wait around for them to figure out who they are and what they really want. im done waiting. its time to move on. goodluck to you. i know believe me i know what your going thru. 

all my best to you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i want to say is i could not stop laughing when i read Evans comparison. f-ing hilarious!!! even though i wanted to be offended i simply couldnt. it was too f-ing funny!!! anyway, i think its sooo very cool that so many people have taken interest in sheenas problem. im going to be very open and tell sheena that i too have been in your situation. this valentines day would be 9 years for and my x fiance who i just it off with. we got engaged (finally) on june 9th, the whole nine yards , a beautiful emerald 1.5 carat engagement ring, down on the knee, my mom everyone there. and then sheena when we got engaged, this man becomes the worst part of himself. instead of saving for the wedding he suppossedly wants, he goes out and leases a lexus, moves out of his parents house finally at age 31 and at my request and rents a 2700 dollar a month 2 bedroom condo that he cant afford, and basically goes into &#8220;self absorbed&#8221; mode. i waited 9 freaken years for this shit? i finally was able to see him for who he was even after all the years of knowing he was a very materialisitic, self absorbed, immature, man, i just thought, he would grow up one day. but sheena, there will always be an &#8220;excuse&#8221; for why the time isnt right, certain decisions were made, and blah blah blah blah blah, honestly men do what they want to do. they&#8217;re good at it. we should learn from them. we are always thinking of others and trying to be &#8220;fair&#8221; and &#8220;sensitive&#8221; to their needs. why? when certain men can be so selfish with us, our time, our needs? why do we allow that? many people have stated &#8220;if he wanted to marry you he would&#8221; i believe my fiance does &#8220;want to &#8221; marry me. do i believe he wants to marry me more than he wants to be  looked and feel like a &#8220;rich and successful&#8221; man instead of the immature indebt materialistic child that he is? NO. I DONT. Heloves me, Your fiance loves you. But theres something they both love more than us. THEMSELVES &amp; THEIR NEEDS. There is something they fear more than us leaving them&#8230; BEING CONTROLLED, AND BEING FAILURES. </p>
<p>So face what you are looking at and make a decision for yourself. They are wonderful loving men full of excuses and issues. Do you want to wait around till they get it together? I will always love my ex for the time we spent together. But i decided to follow his example and PUT MY SELF AND MY NEEDS FIRST LIKE HE ALWAYS HAS. I dont regret spending the last 9 years waiting for the outcome of our relationship to show itself, i will only regret it if i waste anymore time waiting for the child in him to become a man. His issues are no longer my problem. If i would have married him, well obviously they would be. </p>
<p>the hardest part is seeing things for what they are. its not us they love us. the best way they can. its a matter of how long we choose to wait around for them to figure out who they are and what they really want. im done waiting. its time to move on. goodluck to you. i know believe me i know what your going thru. </p>
<p>all my best to you</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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hunter Jan 7th 2008 at 05:49 pm 29
to steve,
I believe you wrote, ..but there is a perception(mistaken or not), that older women, have tougher time finding romantic opportunities..I was adding on to this..
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Okay, I see what you mean now, though I am not sure I agree.  It seems like the older woman  younger man thing most times is about sex and not romance/companionship.   Women also live longer, usually with better health so I imagine things get even tougher in later years</description>
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hunter Jan 7th 2008 at 05:49 pm 29<br />
to steve,<br />
I believe you wrote, ..but there is a perception(mistaken or not), that older women, have tougher time finding romantic opportunities..I was adding on to this..<br />
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<p>Okay, I see what you mean now, though I am not sure I agree.  It seems like the older woman  younger man thing most times is about sex and not romance/companionship.   Women also live longer, usually with better health so I imagine things get even tougher in later years</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 01:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to steve,

I believe you wrote, .....but there is a perception(mistaken or not), that older women, have tougher time finding  romantic opportunities.....I was adding on to this........</description>
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<p>I believe you wrote, &#8230;..but there is a perception(mistaken or not), that older women, have tougher time finding  romantic opportunities&#8230;..I was adding on to this&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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