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		<title>By: carrie lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>carrie lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading this and all of the comments as well. It can work opposites attract or simply as Laura stated a slight difference. I will not compromise on a few things but lately have been seeing that many types could be a match. I was too narrow minded that can happen as we evolve. It is a Re-Freshing change. Not to be so judging, like a re-cycled teenager!! How cool is that. Best to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading this and all of the comments as well. It can work opposites attract or simply as Laura stated a slight difference. I will not compromise on a few things but lately have been seeing that many types could be a match. I was too narrow minded that can happen as we evolve. It is a Re-Freshing change. Not to be so judging, like a re-cycled teenager!! How cool is that. Best to all.</p>
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		<title>By: Agreeing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agreeing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 16:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think too often people count out men/women who could be really good for them. You have to be open to all types of people, because then what a lot of people find is that they fall madly in love with someone they never thought was their type. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think too often people count out men/women who could be really good for them. You have to be open to all types of people, because then what a lot of people find is that they fall madly in love with someone they never thought was their type.</p>
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		<title>By: JuJu</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuJu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 20:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

so, by your logic, it stands to reason that an &quot;infidel&quot; is an altogether despicable human being?

And you&#039;ve obviously never seen the film The Magdalene Sisters. 

I dunno, I&#039;ve also been realizing over the years how meaningless those lists can be, but still, religion is a &quot;big&#039;un&quot;. Also, you are not taking into account the possibility that the religious people themselves might mind: an orthodox Jew, for example, will not marry a woman unable to keep a kosher home and unwilling to cover her hair and whatnot.

I understand that wasn&#039;t the point of the story, though.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>so, by your logic, it stands to reason that an &#8220;infidel&#8221; is an altogether despicable human being?</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ve obviously never seen the film The Magdalene Sisters. </p>
<p>I dunno, I&#8217;ve also been realizing over the years how meaningless those lists can be, but still, religion is a &#8220;big&#8217;un&#8221;. Also, you are not taking into account the possibility that the religious people themselves might mind: an orthodox Jew, for example, will not marry a woman unable to keep a kosher home and unwilling to cover her hair and whatnot.</p>
<p>I understand that wasn&#8217;t the point of the story, though.  <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most men stay away from the women at &quot;church groups,&quot; because men know, these women are not comfortable around men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most men stay away from the women at &#8220;church groups,&#8221; because men know, these women are not comfortable around men.</p>
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		<title>By: Honey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 15:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an atheist, so anyone who was devout (no matter what religion) would probably be a deal-breaker for me.  I&#039;m all about anyone believing anything they want (esp. since I&#039;m in the minority as far as my beliefs), but I don&#039;t think I could live with someone who felt so differently.  Who knows, maybe I&#039;m wrong and I could.  But the BF is an atheist, too, so I&#039;ll never have to find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an atheist, so anyone who was devout (no matter what religion) would probably be a deal-breaker for me.  I&#8217;m all about anyone believing anything they want (esp. since I&#8217;m in the minority as far as my beliefs), but I don&#8217;t think I could live with someone who felt so differently.  Who knows, maybe I&#8217;m wrong and I could.  But the BF is an atheist, too, so I&#8217;ll never have to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 12:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all about not having a checklist. When I was in my first year of college, my friend and I made a list of all the things we wanted in a man. It was so long and when I found it the other day, I burst out laughing. Amazing how different I was back then. One of the best relationships I ever had broke so many of my checklist rules! So now my checklist is minimal. More about personality than age, more about respect than height, and more about understanding than what he does for a living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all about not having a checklist. When I was in my first year of college, my friend and I made a list of all the things we wanted in a man. It was so long and when I found it the other day, I burst out laughing. Amazing how different I was back then. One of the best relationships I ever had broke so many of my checklist rules! So now my checklist is minimal. More about personality than age, more about respect than height, and more about understanding than what he does for a living.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sahaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to date when you get counted out based on religion. Currently I live in Europe - where the Hindu count outside of the UK and some Scandanavian countries is slim to none (or at least seems that way) - forget Eastern Europe, where I am now. Even while living back in the states, I found myself dating people who were commonly not in my religion and vice versa. I think I mentioned this in a previous thread, but a lot of time religion was a deal breaker for the other person in the picture - not necessarily me. If I never dated outside of my religion - especially now, I don&#039;t think I&#039;d date half the time. My brother makes jokes - like, yea well there&#039;s a billion of us - I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll find someone. But its not that cut and dry. Just because I don&#039;t mind what religion my partner is, and hope that in a relationship we can both practice what we do, and be happy about it - it doesn&#039;t mean my partner does. I know now that he simply was not the one for me. Sigh... I wish I could have what you and your fiance have, Evan. *Cross your fingers* for me.  

 Growing up, I faced a lot of misunderstanding and overzealousness from people who didn&#039;t know better - I just tried to help them better understand where I was coming from and did the same for them. But it&#039;s still something that sticks with me. I wont go into specifics, because I think it would be more incendiary than helpful.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to date when you get counted out based on religion. Currently I live in Europe &#8211; where the Hindu count outside of the UK and some Scandanavian countries is slim to none (or at least seems that way) &#8211; forget Eastern Europe, where I am now. Even while living back in the states, I found myself dating people who were commonly not in my religion and vice versa. I think I mentioned this in a previous thread, but a lot of time religion was a deal breaker for the other person in the picture &#8211; not necessarily me. If I never dated outside of my religion &#8211; especially now, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d date half the time. My brother makes jokes &#8211; like, yea well there&#8217;s a billion of us &#8211; I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll find someone. But its not that cut and dry. Just because I don&#8217;t mind what religion my partner is, and hope that in a relationship we can both practice what we do, and be happy about it &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t mean my partner does. I know now that he simply was not the one for me. Sigh&#8230; I wish I could have what you and your fiance have, Evan. *Cross your fingers* for me.  </p>
<p> Growing up, I faced a lot of misunderstanding and overzealousness from people who didn&#8217;t know better &#8211; I just tried to help them better understand where I was coming from and did the same for them. But it&#8217;s still something that sticks with me. I wont go into specifics, because I think it would be more incendiary than helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 01:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What is wrong with a religious person? Doesn&#039;t it stand to reason that a religious person is going to have a little higher moral code, actually not be after just sex (or none at all), and might just want to spend their life giving you the desires of your heart? People are so cynical anymore! I would not consider a person that does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ. If they wouldn&#039;t do that, what else wouldn&#039;t they do?&lt;/em&gt;

Statements like this are actually why non-religious people shy away from dating those who make their religion a big part of their life.  No, it does not stand to reason that a religious person has a higher more code, or a Christian a higher moral code than other religions.  And, when people say &quot;I&#039;ll never date someone who doesn&#039;t have a relationship with Jesus,&quot; all it does is make those of us who aren&#039;t religious fearful of telling people we aren&#039;t religious or take that chance.

Christians are no more likely to be moral than atheists.  Plenty of interfaith (and non faith) relationships do work out.  It&#039;s worth the risk if it is established early that you are tolerant of the other persons faith and do not expect to change them and that you don&#039;t require them to convert for a LTR.  There are spectrums of belief and many people are religious in the sense of a secular Jew.

Take a chance with someone interfaith; just seek out fairly early the issues that might come up long term before you commit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What is wrong with a religious person? Doesn&#8217;t it stand to reason that a religious person is going to have a little higher moral code, actually not be after just sex (or none at all), and might just want to spend their life giving you the desires of your heart? People are so cynical anymore! I would not consider a person that does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ. If they wouldn&#8217;t do that, what else wouldn&#8217;t they do?</em></p>
<p>Statements like this are actually why non-religious people shy away from dating those who make their religion a big part of their life.  No, it does not stand to reason that a religious person has a higher more code, or a Christian a higher moral code than other religions.  And, when people say &#8220;I&#8217;ll never date someone who doesn&#8217;t have a relationship with Jesus,&#8221; all it does is make those of us who aren&#8217;t religious fearful of telling people we aren&#8217;t religious or take that chance.</p>
<p>Christians are no more likely to be moral than atheists.  Plenty of interfaith (and non faith) relationships do work out.  It&#8217;s worth the risk if it is established early that you are tolerant of the other persons faith and do not expect to change them and that you don&#8217;t require them to convert for a LTR.  There are spectrums of belief and many people are religious in the sense of a secular Jew.</p>
<p>Take a chance with someone interfaith; just seek out fairly early the issues that might come up long term before you commit.</p>
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		<title>By: A-L</title>
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		<dc:creator>A-L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m on the opposite end from where Laura D. was coming from.    From the religion section on my Match profile, &quot;I&#039;m a Christian who believes in a loving and tolerant God. My faith influences how I live my life and it is important that whomever I date respects my beliefs.&quot;  

Though I check off the boxes saying that I&#039;m seeking a Christian, I have gone out with non-Christians.  I&#039;m more comfortable with Christians, but at the same time people&#039;s &quot;walk&quot; doesn&#039;t always coincide with their &quot;talk.&quot;  I&#039;m currently seeing a non-Christian who&#039;s fine with my no-sex-until-marriage policy, while a Christian who went to church every other week wasn&#039;t.  Sometimes you never know and you have to give others a shot.  Though admittedly if I give a non-Christian a shot it&#039;s generally because they seem pretty darn amazing except for that detail, whereas I&#039;m more lax about a Christian&#039;s profile (note it&#039;s only their profile, not what happens once we start dating).

Just my $0.02.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m on the opposite end from where Laura D. was coming from.    From the religion section on my Match profile, &#8220;I&#8217;m a Christian who believes in a loving and tolerant God. My faith influences how I live my life and it is important that whomever I date respects my beliefs.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Though I check off the boxes saying that I&#8217;m seeking a Christian, I have gone out with non-Christians.  I&#8217;m more comfortable with Christians, but at the same time people&#8217;s &#8220;walk&#8221; doesn&#8217;t always coincide with their &#8220;talk.&#8221;  I&#8217;m currently seeing a non-Christian who&#8217;s fine with my no-sex-until-marriage policy, while a Christian who went to church every other week wasn&#8217;t.  Sometimes you never know and you have to give others a shot.  Though admittedly if I give a non-Christian a shot it&#8217;s generally because they seem pretty darn amazing except for that detail, whereas I&#8217;m more lax about a Christian&#8217;s profile (note it&#8217;s only their profile, not what happens once we start dating).</p>
<p>Just my $0.02.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Paul (#6) said:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;What is wrong with a religious person? Doesn&#039;t it stand to reason that a religious person is going to have a little higher moral code,&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Not necessarily.  A &quot;religious person&quot; could be like Mother Theresa or like an Inquistor ... or anything in between.

To put it another way, a person who puts a paragraph about their relationship with Jesus Christ in his/her profile is &quot;talking the talk&quot;, regardless of how he/she behaves towards others.  A person who lives out the values that Jesus espoused is &quot;walking the walk&quot;, even if he/she thinks Jesus is a fictional person.

That&#039;s not a reason to avoid someone who &quot;talks the talk&quot;, but it&#039;s hardly a ringing endorsement of them either.  Furthermore, you stated that you &lt;i&gt;&quot;would not consider a person that does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  It&#039;s fairly common that someone who &quot;talks the talk&quot; is looking for someone who also &quot;talks the talk&quot;.

You may also &quot;walk the walk&quot;, and you may be interested in finding someone who also &quot;walks the walk&quot;.  But you discover that by observing how someone behaves towards others (when they&#039;re not trying to impress you ... or anyone else).  You don&#039;t learn that by asking them about their beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Paul (#6) said:</b><br />
<i>&#8220;What is wrong with a religious person? Doesn&#8217;t it stand to reason that a religious person is going to have a little higher moral code,&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not necessarily.  A &#8220;religious person&#8221; could be like Mother Theresa or like an Inquistor &#8230; or anything in between.</p>
<p>To put it another way, a person who puts a paragraph about their relationship with Jesus Christ in his/her profile is &#8220;talking the talk&#8221;, regardless of how he/she behaves towards others.  A person who lives out the values that Jesus espoused is &#8220;walking the walk&#8221;, even if he/she thinks Jesus is a fictional person.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a reason to avoid someone who &#8220;talks the talk&#8221;, but it&#8217;s hardly a ringing endorsement of them either.  Furthermore, you stated that you <i>&#8220;would not consider a person that does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ.&#8221;</i>  It&#8217;s fairly common that someone who &#8220;talks the talk&#8221; is looking for someone who also &#8220;talks the talk&#8221;.</p>
<p>You may also &#8220;walk the walk&#8221;, and you may be interested in finding someone who also &#8220;walks the walk&#8221;.  But you discover that by observing how someone behaves towards others (when they&#8217;re not trying to impress you &#8230; or anyone else).  You don&#8217;t learn that by asking them about their beliefs.</p>
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