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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 21:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E #79
 
One of my best friends doesn&#039;t have a college degree, and makes around 90k (probably 100k with the bonuses she gets), so yes, it is possible, especially if someone has been in their field for many years, and has been regularly promoted. Don&#039;t assume that women can&#039;t earn a good living.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E #79<br />
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One of my best friends doesn&#8217;t have a college degree, and makes around 90k (probably 100k with the bonuses she gets), so yes, it is possible, especially if someone has been in their field for many years, and has been regularly promoted. Don&#8217;t assume that women can&#8217;t earn a good living.</p>
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		<title>By: JustMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno - I am a woman who makes 50k with some college.  Seems possible to me.  Graduation May 2013!!!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno &#8211; I am a woman who makes 50k with some college.  Seems possible to me.  Graduation May 2013!!!  </p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
		<link>http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/why-do-so-many-people-lie-in-online-dating/comment-page-2/#comment-490537</link>
		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve noticed lately that women have started blatantly lying about their income on their dating pages. Women stating like she has SOME COLLEGE but yet miraculously she makes 100k to 150k BS, there is no effin way and so obvious or they funny ones are the careers of Beauty/model yet they are &quot;average&quot; looking and they put down like 50 to 70k, righttttttttttttt ladies and then ladies accuse men of lying about their income. I think men are more honest then ladies these days regarding income ESPECIALLY in this economy. A lady in this economy that put she makes anywhere from 50 to 100 or 150k with like &quot;some college&quot; is full of sh*t. Men don&#039;t take those women seriously with that BS income lie.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed lately that women have started blatantly lying about their income on their dating pages. Women stating like she has SOME COLLEGE but yet miraculously she makes 100k to 150k BS, there is no effin way and so obvious or they funny ones are the careers of Beauty/model yet they are &#8220;average&#8221; looking and they put down like 50 to 70k, righttttttttttttt ladies and then ladies accuse men of lying about their income. I think men are more honest then ladies these days regarding income ESPECIALLY in this economy. A lady in this economy that put she makes anywhere from 50 to 100 or 150k with like &#8220;some college&#8221; is full of sh*t. Men don&#8217;t take those women seriously with that BS income lie.    </p>
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		<title>By: Evan Marc Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Marc Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the insight, Namerequiredok. 

It takes a great amount of chutzpah to overlook the fact that 17% of all marriages in the past 3 years started from online dating, but you did it. I have hundreds of clients, a sister and a few close friends who&#039;ve getting married from online dating. Pretty much blows your theory that it&#039;s &quot;ridiculous&quot; and doesn&#039;t work. 

Furthermore, everyone I know has dated online. I&#039;m betting you have, too. And if that&#039;s the case, we can&#039;t be all &quot;undatables&quot;, can we?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the insight, Namerequiredok. </p>
<p>It takes a great amount of chutzpah to overlook the fact that 17% of all marriages in the past 3 years started from online dating, but you did it. I have hundreds of clients, a sister and a few close friends who&#8217;ve getting married from online dating. Pretty much blows your theory that it&#8217;s &#8220;ridiculous&#8221; and doesn&#8217;t work. </p>
<p>Furthermore, everyone I know has dated online. I&#8217;m betting you have, too. And if that&#8217;s the case, we can&#8217;t be all &#8220;undatables&#8221;, can we?</p>
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		<title>By: Namerequiredok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Namerequiredok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 01:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Online dating: higher propensity to chat with liars.
Real world dating: lower propensity to lie to your date.
 
Solution: give up the ridiculous idea that you&#039;re going to find love online.  Most of what you&#039;ll find are undereducated low class members of society looking for a way out of their miserable lives.  From man-haters, to pathological liars, serial daters and women with far too much time on their hands.  It&#039;s a zoo of undateables.  Now, if you like those kind of women, knock yourself out. 
Really though, just do it the old fashioned way: tell people you&#039;re single. Surely through six degrees of separation, you&#039;ll find someone that&#039;s a good fit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online dating: higher propensity to chat with liars.<br />
Real world dating: lower propensity to lie to your date.<br />
 <br />
Solution: give up the ridiculous idea that you&#8217;re going to find love online.  Most of what you&#8217;ll find are undereducated low class members of society looking for a way out of their miserable lives.  From man-haters, to pathological liars, serial daters and women with far too much time on their hands.  It&#8217;s a zoo of undateables.  Now, if you like those kind of women, knock yourself out.<br />
Really though, just do it the old fashioned way: tell people you&#8217;re single. Surely through six degrees of separation, you&#8217;ll find someone that&#8217;s a good fit.</p>
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		<title>By: starthrower68</title>
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		<dc:creator>starthrower68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2011 02:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be as clever as serpents and as gentle as doves is a piece of scripture that works well in the world of OLD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be as clever as serpents and as gentle as doves is a piece of scripture that works well in the world of OLD.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@JB, I think you can find men who will agree with you that women are superficial, despite the fact that on both sides, people love to rally behind what they want as being what is acceptable and what they deserve, while in the SAME post, criticizing the people whose standards they do not meet. I&#039;m sure you have a list of dealbreakers that I hope you won&#039;t list since I&#039;m sure we&#039;ve read them ALL before.  So keep them. And let the women who like degrees go with that but the lying is silly in my opinion.

At any rate, I&#039;m not sure how you&#039;d expect to find anyone who would support the idea that you lie to everyone about your education.

Like I said, plenty of women marry men who aren&#039;t college grads, and who have never been to college.  But you clearly dont&#039; want those women.  &quot;No one wants me&quot; is usually complaints that the much younger, better looking, educated women who get hundreds of emails won&#039;t reply to the middle-aged high school grad/college drop-out.

And there is just the fact that while online dating helps you meet people you wouldn&#039;t meet in real life, since it sets things up to be like a candy shop, people cherry pick people using certain features that they wouldn&#039;t necessarily use when dealing with people in real life.  

You might be perfectly charming and witty in person, and if someone who values true intelligence meets you, by the time she finds out that you didn&#039;t go to college she won&#039;t care.  But online, yeah, a lot of college-educated and beyond women don&#039;t want to hear from you...it&#039;s true for a LOT of people who aren&#039;t &quot;perfect&quot; in any way.  Deal with it.   

I mean, while it&#039;s rare to have such a positive outcome, if Michael Dell or Bill Gates were online, they&#039;d get passed over too since their looks wouldn&#039;t cut it and they are both &quot;college drop-outs.&quot; Granted, most drop outs don&#039;t do so well but it&#039;s one more reason why it shouldn&#039;t make you that upset...you have some good company in the no degree club, and yeah, people can look past it even if you aren&#039;t a billionaire. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JB, I think you can find men who will agree with you that women are superficial, despite the fact that on both sides, people love to rally behind what they want as being what is acceptable and what they deserve, while in the SAME post, criticizing the people whose standards they do not meet. I&#8217;m sure you have a list of dealbreakers that I hope you won&#8217;t list since I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ve read them ALL before.  So keep them. And let the women who like degrees go with that but the lying is silly in my opinion.</p>
<p>At any rate, I&#8217;m not sure how you&#8217;d expect to find anyone who would support the idea that you lie to everyone about your education.</p>
<p>Like I said, plenty of women marry men who aren&#8217;t college grads, and who have never been to college.  But you clearly dont&#8217; want those women.  &#8221;No one wants me&#8221; is usually complaints that the much younger, better looking, educated women who get hundreds of emails won&#8217;t reply to the middle-aged high school grad/college drop-out.</p>
<p>And there is just the fact that while online dating helps you meet people you wouldn&#8217;t meet in real life, since it sets things up to be like a candy shop, people cherry pick people using certain features that they wouldn&#8217;t necessarily use when dealing with people in real life.  </p>
<p>You might be perfectly charming and witty in person, and if someone who values true intelligence meets you, by the time she finds out that you didn&#8217;t go to college she won&#8217;t care.  But online, yeah, a lot of college-educated and beyond women don&#8217;t want to hear from you&#8230;it&#8217;s true for a LOT of people who aren&#8217;t &#8220;perfect&#8221; in any way.  Deal with it.   </p>
<p>I mean, while it&#8217;s rare to have such a positive outcome, if Michael Dell or Bill Gates were online, they&#8217;d get passed over too since their looks wouldn&#8217;t cut it and they are both &#8220;college drop-outs.&#8221; Granted, most drop outs don&#8217;t do so well but it&#8217;s one more reason why it shouldn&#8217;t make you that upset&#8230;you have some good company in the no degree club, and yeah, people can look past it even if you aren&#8217;t a billionaire. </p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Believe me JB I appreciate your posts just bolsters my decision not to do OLD.    You see dating as a &quot;game&quot; which I find repugnant to each his own.

It&#039;s funny that you find honesty exhausting to me dishonesty would be more exhausting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe me JB I appreciate your posts just bolsters my decision not to do OLD.    You see dating as a &#8220;game&#8221; which I find repugnant to each his own.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny that you find honesty exhausting to me dishonesty would be more exhausting.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Theresa: I&#039;ve never even had to tell my &quot;back story&quot; for the past because no one has ever asked me. That was just I would say IF it ever came up.

I &quot;keep track&quot; of a lot of things in my life because I have a little OCD but in online dating or dating in general it helps to have notes etc.... because at &quot;my age&quot; my memory is going....LOL  I don&#039;t &quot;suffer&quot; from anything. I&#039;m not an &quot;OLD 4&quot;, I&#039;m a middle aged &quot;5&quot; on a good day...lol and I&#039;m perfectly happy dating my equals which for the most part is what I get. I have no delusional expectations. Everything in life is a &quot;game&quot;, didn&#039;t you spin the little plastic wheel and play it when you were younger. The &quot;game of life&quot;.


@Goldie: Seriously....relax you&#039;ve made way more out of this than it deserves. I&#039;ll be fine, let it go. Let&#039;s just agree to disagree.

@Nicole: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Why not date the ones who don&#039;t care if I have a degree?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  Good luck finding those 3 gals.

For the record, this thread and me being honest with you all on it has exhausted me more than my last 3 yrs of dating put together.....ha ha ha !!

Obviously there&#039;s no men on here to back me up as to what it&#039;s like being an average guy trying to succeed in the online dating arena so I&#039;ll just say this.
Anytime I post honestly in any thread it&#039;s to help everyone learn what they might be dealing with and what&#039;s &quot;going on out there&quot; from a guys perspective since there&#039;s so few of us on here. I don&#039;t expect anyone to agree with me but at least maybe understand the reasons. I do have 35 yrs. dating experience and 14 yrs. online so THAT I do have a degree in. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Theresa: I&#8217;ve never even had to tell my &#8220;back story&#8221; for the past because no one has ever asked me. That was just I would say IF it ever came up.</p>
<p>I &#8220;keep track&#8221; of a lot of things in my life because I have a little OCD but in online dating or dating in general it helps to have notes etc&#8230;. because at &#8220;my age&#8221; my memory is going&#8230;.LOL  I don&#8217;t &#8220;suffer&#8221; from anything. I&#8217;m not an &#8220;OLD 4&#8243;, I&#8217;m a middle aged &#8220;5&#8243; on a good day&#8230;lol and I&#8217;m perfectly happy dating my equals which for the most part is what I get. I have no delusional expectations. Everything in life is a &#8220;game&#8221;, didn&#8217;t you spin the little plastic wheel and play it when you were younger. The &#8220;game of life&#8221;.</p>
<p>@Goldie: Seriously&#8230;.relax you&#8217;ve made way more out of this than it deserves. I&#8217;ll be fine, let it go. Let&#8217;s just agree to disagree.</p>
<p>@Nicole: <em>&#8220;Why not date the ones who don&#8217;t care if I have a degree?&#8221;</em>  Good luck finding those 3 gals.</p>
<p>For the record, this thread and me being honest with you all on it has exhausted me more than my last 3 yrs of dating put together&#8230;..ha ha ha !!</p>
<p>Obviously there&#8217;s no men on here to back me up as to what it&#8217;s like being an average guy trying to succeed in the online dating arena so I&#8217;ll just say this.<br />
Anytime I post honestly in any thread it&#8217;s to help everyone learn what they might be dealing with and what&#8217;s &#8220;going on out there&#8221; from a guys perspective since there&#8217;s so few of us on here. I don&#8217;t expect anyone to agree with me but at least maybe understand the reasons. I do have 35 yrs. dating experience and 14 yrs. online so THAT I do have a degree in. <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ofw dating</title>
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		<dc:creator>ofw dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 08:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[exact point. although its totally not right, on one end, you can&#039;t really blame them. insecurities is one of the biggest struggles ever existed. on dating sites, you can see some real people who have really sexy bodies and all. and thinking that probability to get positive on online dating just means losing it if you don&#039;t get a little competitive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exact point. although its totally not right, on one end, you can&#8217;t really blame them. insecurities is one of the biggest struggles ever existed. on dating sites, you can see some real people who have really sexy bodies and all. and thinking that probability to get positive on online dating just means losing it if you don&#8217;t get a little competitive.</p>
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