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	<title>Comments on: Why Hot Guys and Girls Are Like Red Meat &#8211; They Will Kill You in the Long Run</title>
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		<title>By: Karl R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;mic said:&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;maybe there&#039;s a point (age) at which the particularly attractive people left who aren&#039;t committed to long-term relationships are mostly those who are style over substance and are unlikely to improve much underneath.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Like most generalizations, that one just doesn&#039;t work.

People (regardless of attractiveness or internal qualities) are available or unavailable at all ages for many reasons.  An attractive woman could get divorced and be available again.  An attractive woman could let her career consume her life for a decade (or more) before deciding that she really wants to find someone to share her life with.

Maybe she even ended up in a string of relationships with guys who were style over substance before realizing that wasn&#039;t working for her.

It&#039;s impossible to make intelligent assumptions why someone is still available without getting to know them first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>mic said:</b><br />
<i>&#8220;maybe there&#8217;s a point (age) at which the particularly attractive people left who aren&#8217;t committed to long-term relationships are mostly those who are style over substance and are unlikely to improve much underneath.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Like most generalizations, that one just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>People (regardless of attractiveness or internal qualities) are available or unavailable at all ages for many reasons.  An attractive woman could get divorced and be available again.  An attractive woman could let her career consume her life for a decade (or more) before deciding that she really wants to find someone to share her life with.</p>
<p>Maybe she even ended up in a string of relationships with guys who were style over substance before realizing that wasn&#8217;t working for her.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to make intelligent assumptions why someone is still available without getting to know them first.</p>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Selena, steak and spinach?   How funny!..</description>
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		<title>By: hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, while at the university, I remember seeing a cheerleader with plain, average looks and dateless, until she met me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, while at the university, I remember seeing a cheerleader with plain, average looks and dateless, until she met me.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Roger and Sayanta 

Michelle here. Although the title of this blog reads hotness and a lot of people are reading the message as being avoid good looking people you&#039;re attracted too that was never what he was saying to me. The point he was hitting home for ME was that I was trying to create relationships off of that euphoric toe-curling, head in the clouds chemistry HIGH that some men can bring out in me and he was making me recognize my ADDICTION to those guys; to the extent that I OVERLOOK red flags and big deal breakers that everyone is able to see but me, because I&#039;m in la-la land with my high. It has nothing to do with looks and everything to do with that chemical reaction that often blinds me to things I shouldn&#039;t overlook.

The way Evan so eloquently put it to me was You&#039;re taking someone where the chemistry is a 10 and the compatability is a 4 and trying to turn it into a working relationship. He challenged me to ask myself if this was the first time I had done this, and the answer was a resounding NO I had based the decision almost in its entirety to keep seeing someone because of the feeling they gave me, and not on anything that would make me happy or content in the long run.

As you said Roger, you look for attraction AND for someone who has long term qualities I had developed a blind spot at discerning what long term qualities I need to be looking for, because I just wanted the roller coaster ride. Now I have a new approach.

Mic - you&#039;re right. I have been going about it the wrong way; which is why I needed someone to put me on a course of action that is better suited for my long term happiness. Evan started me off with a few basic guidelines that I haven&#039;t been doing; such as going on a date once a week and using a more cerebral and less organic thought process, so that&#039;s what I&#039;m doing (And I&#039;ve got a date this Sunday ;-)

Sam - I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too soon because I was ready to receive the information! I recognized everything I had been doing wrong, listened attentively to the advice that he gave me with all my defenses down and its like a switch went off and a new door has opened. Sometimes I think it CAN happen like that for people. And I never said I thought it would work out with the 5-8? guy and we&#039;d live happily ever after but I recognize my own criteria of superficiality I&#039;ve been using and I&#039;m lucky enough to have options, so no I don&#039;t think its to soon to feel that I have been changed from coaching. I know what I need to do now. but I will let you know ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Roger and Sayanta </p>
<p>Michelle here. Although the title of this blog reads hotness and a lot of people are reading the message as being avoid good looking people you&#8217;re attracted too that was never what he was saying to me. The point he was hitting home for ME was that I was trying to create relationships off of that euphoric toe-curling, head in the clouds chemistry HIGH that some men can bring out in me and he was making me recognize my ADDICTION to those guys; to the extent that I OVERLOOK red flags and big deal breakers that everyone is able to see but me, because I&#8217;m in la-la land with my high. It has nothing to do with looks and everything to do with that chemical reaction that often blinds me to things I shouldn&#8217;t overlook.</p>
<p>The way Evan so eloquently put it to me was You&#8217;re taking someone where the chemistry is a 10 and the compatability is a 4 and trying to turn it into a working relationship. He challenged me to ask myself if this was the first time I had done this, and the answer was a resounding NO I had based the decision almost in its entirety to keep seeing someone because of the feeling they gave me, and not on anything that would make me happy or content in the long run.</p>
<p>As you said Roger, you look for attraction AND for someone who has long term qualities I had developed a blind spot at discerning what long term qualities I need to be looking for, because I just wanted the roller coaster ride. Now I have a new approach.</p>
<p>Mic &#8211; you&#8217;re right. I have been going about it the wrong way; which is why I needed someone to put me on a course of action that is better suited for my long term happiness. Evan started me off with a few basic guidelines that I haven&#8217;t been doing; such as going on a date once a week and using a more cerebral and less organic thought process, so that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m doing (And I&#8217;ve got a date this Sunday <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sam &#8211; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too soon because I was ready to receive the information! I recognized everything I had been doing wrong, listened attentively to the advice that he gave me with all my defenses down and its like a switch went off and a new door has opened. Sometimes I think it CAN happen like that for people. And I never said I thought it would work out with the 5-8? guy and we&#8217;d live happily ever after but I recognize my own criteria of superficiality I&#8217;ve been using and I&#8217;m lucky enough to have options, so no I don&#8217;t think its to soon to feel that I have been changed from coaching. I know what I need to do now. but I will let you know <img src='http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t four days a little early for Michelle to be evaluating her new dating strategy? As someone who is 5?8 I&#039;m happy she&#039;s giving my height class a chance, but she&#039;s being too quick to generalize. Has she even met the guy in person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t four days a little early for Michelle to be evaluating her new dating strategy? As someone who is 5?8 I&#8217;m happy she&#8217;s giving my height class a chance, but she&#8217;s being too quick to generalize. Has she even met the guy in person?</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are hot and not so hot emotionally available and unavailable men. Any individual can be the equivalent of fried foods or veggies, regardless of appearance. And the term hot is relative, too. She is choosing these men based on her own flaws and that will require more work than choosing another guy she wouldn&#039;t have been all that interested in simply because he&#039;s 5? 8?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are hot and not so hot emotionally available and unavailable men. Any individual can be the equivalent of fried foods or veggies, regardless of appearance. And the term hot is relative, too. She is choosing these men based on her own flaws and that will require more work than choosing another guy she wouldn&#8217;t have been all that interested in simply because he&#8217;s 5? 8?.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Karl: And unlike me, they have a very good chance of getting someone who is all that (once they weed through the other 999 suitors). 

I think my definition of hot is different from the way it is being used in Evan&#039;s article and the discussion. I look for a hot lover who carries the passion far beyond the usual first few months. This has little to do with looks and not much to do with immediate chemistry. Since it is nearly impossible to pick out from a profile, the only solution is to look for women with great relationship skills, enthusiasm, and creativity. That way, by the time we&#039;ve invested enough in the relationship that it is appropriate to have sex, how ever it turns out is great.

I did learn to avoid the overtly hot early on in my dating. Example: cheerleaders. They were strongly ego-invested in the look and the role and had tons of guys trying to date them the classic trophy date. Plus they were so busy managing the hair, skin, clothes and physique that they genuinely did not have the time to build a serious relationship.

Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Karl: And unlike me, they have a very good chance of getting someone who is all that (once they weed through the other 999 suitors). </p>
<p>I think my definition of hot is different from the way it is being used in Evan&#8217;s article and the discussion. I look for a hot lover who carries the passion far beyond the usual first few months. This has little to do with looks and not much to do with immediate chemistry. Since it is nearly impossible to pick out from a profile, the only solution is to look for women with great relationship skills, enthusiasm, and creativity. That way, by the time we&#8217;ve invested enough in the relationship that it is appropriate to have sex, how ever it turns out is great.</p>
<p>I did learn to avoid the overtly hot early on in my dating. Example: cheerleaders. They were strongly ego-invested in the look and the role and had tons of guys trying to date them the classic trophy date. Plus they were so busy managing the hair, skin, clothes and physique that they genuinely did not have the time to build a serious relationship.</p>
<p>Roger</p>
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		<title>By: searchingwithin</title>
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		<dc:creator>searchingwithin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also read into this post to stay away from hot people, they are trouble with a capital T, and I was also going to bring up that based on your photo on this site, you are quite the hottie, unless of course like so many others, the photo is not you, or a very old one. Not all good looking people are in a constant hunt for ego strokes.

Your comment cleared it up. So many people, it seems, have not set up any standards, requirements, and boundaries, and by that I don&#039;t mean physical characteristics, but values and character characteristics, and they hop head first into disaster by basing their requirements on superficial things.

searching within s last blog post Seeking Validation and Love Through Men&#039;s Approval</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also read into this post to stay away from hot people, they are trouble with a capital T, and I was also going to bring up that based on your photo on this site, you are quite the hottie, unless of course like so many others, the photo is not you, or a very old one. Not all good looking people are in a constant hunt for ego strokes.</p>
<p>Your comment cleared it up. So many people, it seems, have not set up any standards, requirements, and boundaries, and by that I don&#8217;t mean physical characteristics, but values and character characteristics, and they hop head first into disaster by basing their requirements on superficial things.</p>
<p>searching within s last blog post Seeking Validation and Love Through Men&#8217;s Approval</p>
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		<title>By: Selena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve found both steak and spinach to sometimes be rancid after the package has been opened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found both steak and spinach to sometimes be rancid after the package has been opened.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Marc Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan Marc Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your take away from this post was avoid hot people instead of don&#039;t base your entire relationship on looks and chemistry, then I haven&#039;t done a good job of communicating. Maybe next time.

And yes, Sayanta, I kind of was a ladykiller when I was dating prolifically. And that&#039;s why I&#039;m a helluva dating coach - I explain to women the psychology of guys like me </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your take away from this post was avoid hot people instead of don&#8217;t base your entire relationship on looks and chemistry, then I haven&#8217;t done a good job of communicating. Maybe next time.</p>
<p>And yes, Sayanta, I kind of was a ladykiller when I was dating prolifically. And that&#8217;s why I&#8217;m a helluva dating coach &#8211; I explain to women the psychology of guys like me</p>
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