On occasion, Mr. Katz, you are truly crude. There is nothing funny about this, but totally depressing. This is the result of homosexualized media drivel contaminating male-female relationships; the death of masculinity and femininty (or, almost) and just plain cynicism–ugly, rude and crude.
And, uh, no, I am not a provincial “rube”…
in fact, I am the woman you say does not exist: the “supermodel” type in looks, History degree from an Ivy school, two foreign languages, and brilliant cooking skills. I came on this site as a young widow, looking to learn about dating.
I will not be staying any longer.
3
helene
I can only assume men see it differently??!!
4
Ellen
eeeeeewwwwwwwww. Really Evan, TMI ok? That said, porn stars earn their pay, that’s for sure.
Glad I had lunch over an hr. ago.
5
LD
My girlfriends and I are cracking up over this. Love it.
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Karl R
helene asked: (#2) “I can only assume men see it differently??!!”
Sort of.
I wish I had the email address of the (ex)girlfriend who claimed that female genitalia were aesthetically pleasing and men’s were silly-looking … just so I could send her the link to this YouTube video.
That said, I find female genitalia sexually arousing because it’s associated with sex, not because they look pretty. (I can’t fault their descriptions of how it looked.) On the other hand, I don’t have the visceral repulsion that they described. (My visceral reaction is the opposite of theirs.)
Discussing the distinct … aroma which Garfunkel and Oates mention: it’s my understanding that there are a substantial number of pheromones in vaginal secretions. It’s no rose bouquet, but it’s certainly arousing.
7
Amy
This is kinda funny, but I think it’s much funnier for you Evan, than for us girls.
@helene I for one am extreamly grateful that they do!!
9
Helen
Ehhh… it’s not an offensive video, but it’s rather immature and melodramatic and not especially funny. It would be more interesting to know what men think. Karl, thanks for providing your discreet opinions.
10
Henriette
Meh. I know it’s meant in fun, but the fact that one of the fastest-growing forms of plastic surgery is women having their genitals hacked (“labiaplasty”)* makes me uneasy when I hear anyone talk about how ugly and gross females are “down there.”
Besides, I can’t say that I was struck by the smooth pulchritude of the first penis I ever saw. I liked it – because I was in love with the owner and attracted to him – but I sure didn’t think it was exquisitely beautiful or smelled like roses.
Couldn’t watch the vid but I’m pretty sure I get the gist and would echo Karl in #5. Some are prettier than others. It is very rare (ever?) in my experience to find one an unappetizing unarousing distance from a rose bouquet.
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Kathleen
I also realize the video is meant in fun but behind it is a unpleasant tone of self loathing that is all to common in females.
I heard on a TED talk that 53% of 13 year olds are unhappy with their bodies and that goes up to 78% by the time they are 17. So now the self loathing goes from loathing your female fat to loathing your genitalia?
Thanks Karl for offering some redeeming comments so I don’t feel so “icky” about the video.
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chivon
I thought the video was funny. Esp when the women cringe in horror =P
@ Marcia, Henriette and Kathleen: I thought you might be taking the video out of context. The song is about a woman who tried to sleep with another woman but was revolted by the idea of going down on her female. How would you say that it shows the woman loathing her own genitalia? She’s not trying to go down on herself….
And is the message really about self-loathing? I mean..the song describes the smells of the vagina and how it oozes (haha)..are you saying that this isn’t true in real life? How is telling the truth ‘crude’??? I don’t think the singers are saying that vaginas are ugly or gross in general, or that by extension women should hate their vaginas if they aren’t pink and perfect…I don’t think that’s the message. They’re celebrating the vagina actually by poking fun at how it looks. That’s all 😉
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chivon
*oops i meant ‘…going down on her female partner’ in the 4th line. Sorry for the confusion!
15
David T
I concur with Karl, Frimm and Kath’s points and add that some women are very self-conscious about that exquisite (:)) part of their anatomy. It is a little sad that in moments of vulnerability and caring affection (emotionally intimate sex) that they feel unsafe and fear being judged or rejected.
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Nadia
Yeah, I’m kind of over hearing how gross the vulva is.
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JB
As a guy I thought the video was cute and funny. I love everything about the vagina. I love the way they all look a little different, smell/taste a little different, have hair around them(hopefully), love the labia and the folds. “Labiaplasty”, waxing, or doing anything to ruin it’s natural beauty doesn’t do it for me. Sorry. I love it the way god made it. 🙂
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Ruby
I’m not getting how poking fun at how the vagina looks is actually celebrating it. I understand that the video is about a woman wanting to be able to be bisexual, but when confronted with an actual vagina, she loses all interest. However, the video made its point repeatedly, literally ad nauseum. If you hate the way another vagina looks, are you going to hate the way yours looks?
Have you ever watched a woman give birth? It looks pretty gross, yet from that comes a new life. Is there a point to going on and on about how disgusting it is?
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PK
Haha, so then what’s behind girls saying they like doing that?
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Karen
I understand this was intended as lighthearted fun. It struck a nerve of sadness instead, and even more so because it was made by two women.
I immediately felt sad for all the girls and women who will continue to miss the pleasure, orgasms and deep intimacy that come when they can truly relax and enjoy their bodies being pleasured so intimately by another. Instead many or most will continue to feel too uncomfortable to really let go, since their fear and insecurities that their pussy is revolting in some way is perpetuated or confirmed (inaccurately in my opinion of course.)
A video about the sexiness, tastiness, and hotness of a pussy– up close would have gifted your readers with a greater freedom to embrace and enjoy their pussies with complete abandon.
Instead, more women will keep their legs closed and feel inhibited, ashamed, afraid and not wanting to revolt their partner.
So much pleasure, fun and intimacy that could have been. So, so sad.
There’s been a lot of talk – including talk on this blog – about hookup culture. Is it empowering for women to embrace their sexuality, have fun, and not worry…
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That’s awesome!!!
On occasion, Mr. Katz, you are truly crude. There is nothing funny about this, but totally depressing. This is the result of homosexualized media drivel contaminating male-female relationships; the death of masculinity and femininty (or, almost) and just plain cynicism–ugly, rude and crude.
And, uh, no, I am not a provincial “rube”…
in fact, I am the woman you say does not exist: the “supermodel” type in looks, History degree from an Ivy school, two foreign languages, and brilliant cooking skills. I came on this site as a young widow, looking to learn about dating.
I will not be staying any longer.
I can only assume men see it differently??!!
eeeeeewwwwwwwww. Really Evan, TMI ok? That said, porn stars earn their pay, that’s for sure.
Glad I had lunch over an hr. ago.
My girlfriends and I are cracking up over this. Love it.
helene asked: (#2)
“I can only assume men see it differently??!!”
Sort of.
I wish I had the email address of the (ex)girlfriend who claimed that female genitalia were aesthetically pleasing and men’s were silly-looking … just so I could send her the link to this YouTube video.
That said, I find female genitalia sexually arousing because it’s associated with sex, not because they look pretty. (I can’t fault their descriptions of how it looked.) On the other hand, I don’t have the visceral repulsion that they described. (My visceral reaction is the opposite of theirs.)
Discussing the distinct … aroma which Garfunkel and Oates mention: it’s my understanding that there are a substantial number of pheromones in vaginal secretions. It’s no rose bouquet, but it’s certainly arousing.
This is kinda funny, but I think it’s much funnier for you Evan, than for us girls.
@helene I for one am extreamly grateful that they do!!
Ehhh… it’s not an offensive video, but it’s rather immature and melodramatic and not especially funny. It would be more interesting to know what men think. Karl, thanks for providing your discreet opinions.
Meh. I know it’s meant in fun, but the fact that one of the fastest-growing forms of plastic surgery is women having their genitals hacked (“labiaplasty”)* makes me uneasy when I hear anyone talk about how ugly and gross females are “down there.”
Besides, I can’t say that I was struck by the smooth pulchritude of the first penis I ever saw. I liked it – because I was in love with the owner and attracted to him – but I sure didn’t think it was exquisitely beautiful or smelled like roses.
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18947106
* http://web.archive.org/web/20130411225508/http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/nov/20/cosmetic-vulva-surgery
Couldn’t watch the vid but I’m pretty sure I get the gist and would echo Karl in #5. Some are prettier than others. It is very rare (ever?) in my experience to find one an unappetizing unarousing distance from a rose bouquet.
I also realize the video is meant in fun but behind it is a unpleasant tone of self loathing that is all to common in females.
I heard on a TED talk that 53% of 13 year olds are unhappy with their bodies and that goes up to 78% by the time they are 17. So now the self loathing goes from loathing your female fat to loathing your genitalia?
Thanks Karl for offering some redeeming comments so I don’t feel so “icky” about the video.
I thought the video was funny. Esp when the women cringe in horror =P
@ Marcia, Henriette and Kathleen: I thought you might be taking the video out of context. The song is about a woman who tried to sleep with another woman but was revolted by the idea of going down on her female. How would you say that it shows the woman loathing her own genitalia? She’s not trying to go down on herself….
And is the message really about self-loathing? I mean..the song describes the smells of the vagina and how it oozes (haha)..are you saying that this isn’t true in real life? How is telling the truth ‘crude’??? I don’t think the singers are saying that vaginas are ugly or gross in general, or that by extension women should hate their vaginas if they aren’t pink and perfect…I don’t think that’s the message. They’re celebrating the vagina actually by poking fun at how it looks. That’s all 😉
*oops i meant ‘…going down on her female partner’ in the 4th line. Sorry for the confusion!
I concur with Karl, Frimm and Kath’s points and add that some women are very self-conscious about that exquisite (:)) part of their anatomy. It is a little sad that in moments of vulnerability and caring affection (emotionally intimate sex) that they feel unsafe and fear being judged or rejected.
Yeah, I’m kind of over hearing how gross the vulva is.
As a guy I thought the video was cute and funny. I love everything about the vagina. I love the way they all look a little different, smell/taste a little different, have hair around them(hopefully), love the labia and the folds. “Labiaplasty”, waxing, or doing anything to ruin it’s natural beauty doesn’t do it for me. Sorry. I love it the way god made it. 🙂
I’m not getting how poking fun at how the vagina looks is actually celebrating it. I understand that the video is about a woman wanting to be able to be bisexual, but when confronted with an actual vagina, she loses all interest. However, the video made its point repeatedly, literally ad nauseum. If you hate the way another vagina looks, are you going to hate the way yours looks?
Have you ever watched a woman give birth? It looks pretty gross, yet from that comes a new life. Is there a point to going on and on about how disgusting it is?
Haha, so then what’s behind girls saying they like doing that?
I understand this was intended as lighthearted fun. It struck a nerve of sadness instead, and even more so because it was made by two women.
I immediately felt sad for all the girls and women who will continue to miss the pleasure, orgasms and deep intimacy that come when they can truly relax and enjoy their bodies being pleasured so intimately by another. Instead many or most will continue to feel too uncomfortable to really let go, since their fear and insecurities that their pussy is revolting in some way is perpetuated or confirmed (inaccurately in my opinion of course.)
A video about the sexiness, tastiness, and hotness of a pussy– up close would have gifted your readers with a greater freedom to embrace and enjoy their pussies with complete abandon.
Instead, more women will keep their legs closed and feel inhibited, ashamed, afraid and not wanting to revolt their partner.
So much pleasure, fun and intimacy that could have been. So, so sad.